Flax Seeds

Hi all,
I just want to say thank you. I have been mixing fruit in wit the
cc/fo mix and it has been tasting better and it has been going down
easier.
I am still at a quandry over the dairy products. But I am trying to
get hold of Dr Budwigs book so that I can read about it myself.
Once again thanks
Sall
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Mary Janet
You got the cow by the tail on this one........ I stand corrected.
mjh
In a message dated 7/21/02 3:54:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MUPPIE647@... writes:

We have just had about one hundred posts about Milk and dairy
products that never mentioned either one. Does that make sense?
Sorry, retired librarian speaking here.
With warm regards
Mary Janet

Please accept this in the manner in which it is offered...
A short time back someone mentioned that we need to change the
subject of the post when we start talking about another subject. I
like to access the archives to check out info that I neglected to
print at the time of reading, or maybe something that was written
before I joined this list.
I love you all, and I enjoy the repartee that goes on between the
members here... it keeps us in touch with our humanity and
personality, so I am not complaining about that!
We have just had about one hundred posts about Milk and dairy
products that never mentioned either one. Does that make sense?
Sorry, retired librarian speaking here.
With warm regards
Mary Janet

Wilhelm -

you understand my motive - I like Dr Budwig's approach, I follow it,
I want it accepted by everybody.
For breakfast
2 tablespoons of oil
100 grams of quark
3 tablespons of linseed to grind
Regards
Peter

You reminded me about something else. The outside of the flaxseed(hull) is where you find the insoluble/soluble fiber and lignans.

You mean the hull's outside surface, or just as we crack it open, under that part?

And the nut-meat itself is where oil and protein are?

Miz Judy

Ms Judy:

You reminded me about something else. The outside of the flaxseed(hull) is where you find the insoluble/soluble fiber and lignans. The inside(embryo) of the seed is where the oil and protein are located. If you can keep this picture in mind when learning about how they extract the oil, or lignans, or whatever, it helps to make some sense out of some of the studies(that are really hard to understand!)

Jane Reinhardt-Martin, RD, LD

Author: Flax Your Way to Better Health

www.FlaxRD.com

Okay now this is making sense..Thanks

Miz Judy
This is so hard to read with everything underscored and bold..... why not just use 12 point type?
mjh
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Thanks Mike and Jane for this report..this makes me understand the seeds even better. I will again read this, so that I can learn as I go.
When we visit Cliff in the next few days: we will be comparing notes,notes, notes..Also learning as we discuss Flaxseed and oils. I will report my learning..when I return home, or I will use Cliff's computer. Many things we need to clear up for Mel and I while visiting. It has been years since we've sat down to talk about health issues..way back to the Vinegar and honey time..Ha'ha.
I have someone telling me the other day they have never heard of Flaxseed before. Now they want me to explain why we are using it.. SOMEONE write me a quick brief outline..to save me some time from digging into archives. Thanks..Or to where Other thant Barleans I can send them for infor..Maybe to Cliffs Family page? So much has been said about Flaxseed and the oil on several groups..but it takes time to read when one is bedfast. or not well enough to sit to long at a computer.
Love Miz Judy and Mr.Mel

Thanks Mike and Jane for this report..this makes me understand the seeds even better. I will again read this, so that I can learn as I go.

When we visit Cliff in the next few days: we will be comparing notes,notes, notes..Also learning as we discuss Flaxseed and oils. I will report my learning..when I return home, or I will use Cliff's computer. Many things we need to clear up for Mel and I while visiting. It has been years since we've sat down to talk about health issues..way back to the Vinegar and honey time..Ha'ha.

I have someone telling me the other day they have never heard of Flaxseed before. Now they want me to explain why we are using it.. SOMEONE write me a quick brief outline..to save me some time from digging into archives. Thanks..Or to where Other thant Barleans I can send them for infor..Maybe to Cliffs Family page? So much has been said about Flaxseed and the oil on several groups..but it takes time to read when one is bedfast. or not well enough to sit to long at a computer.

Love Miz Judy and Mr.Mel

Hello everyone:

I believe this has been disussed before, I just ran out of time to send. So, since it is really hot here in the midwest, thought I would catch up on emails. Below are all the studies that I am aware of that has been done on the stability of ground flaxseed, storage and during the cooking/baking process. I hope this answers some of your questions. Researchers at North Dakota State University continue to do studies in this area. Stay cool.

Jane Reinhardt-Martin, RD, LD

Author: Flax Your Way to Better Health

www.FlaxRD.com

Summary of Studies--- Stability of whole/milled flaxseed:

*Chen Z-Y, Ratnayake WMN, and Cunnane SC. "Stability of Flaxseed during Baking." Journal of American Oil Chemists Society. 71(1992): 629-632.

Summary: One gram samples of whole flaxseed, milled flaxseed, and extracted flax oil were held in individual sealed glass tubes for 280 days(approx 10 months) at room temperature with 12h alternating dark/light cycles. All 3 preparations showed little change in head space oxygen during this time although the flax oil sample was more variable. The fatty acid composition of all three samples remained unchanged, suggesting that flaxseed ALA was stable to both heat and light. Lignans were not measured.

*Ratnayake WMN, Behrens WA, Fischer PWF, L'Abbe MR, Mongeau R, and Beare-Rogers JL. "Flaxseed: Chemical Stability and Nutritional Properties." Journal of Nutritional Biochemistry. 3(1992): 232-240.

Summary: Whole and ground flax were stored for 44 weeks(about 10 months) at 39 degrees F and 72 degrees F. Both the fatty acid composition and POV(peroxide value) remained virtually unchanged. Lignans were not measured.

*Malcolmson LJ, Przybylski R, and Daun JK. "Storage Stability of Milled Flaxseed." Journal of American Oil Chemists Society. 77 no. 3(2000): 235-238.

Summary: Two samples of flaxseed were milled and stored at 73 degrees F for 128 days(4 months) in paper bags with plastic liners. Samples were evaluated at 0,33,66,96, and 128 days for chemical, sensory, and volatile indicators of quality. Both flax samples showed very little increase of peroxide values or change in ALA content. A trained sensory panel could not detect a difference between fresh or stored samples, by odor or taste.

*Daun JK. "Additional Data on the Storage Stability of Milled Flaxseed." Journal of American Oil Chemists Society. 78 no. 1(2001): 105-106. Milled flaxseed(packaged in loosely closed plastic bags and protected from light) was stored in warehouse conditions at ambient temperatures for up to 20 months. Peroxide levels were relatively unchanged and the ALA content was intact.

*Wiesenborn D, Tostenson K, Kangas N, and Osowski C. "Mechanical Fractionation of Flaxseed for Edible Uses." Proceedings of the 59^th Flax Institute of the US(2002): 25-29.

Summary: Two sets of samples, one had milled flaxseed spread out in trays exposed to air at 40 C; the other set had milled flaxseed stored in closed containers(plastic bags within paper bags) at room temperature. All samples were stored in the dark for up to 22 weeks. Flaxseed spread out in trays showed substantial deterioration(high peroxide levels) by 14 weeks. Flaxseed stored in bags showed very little increase in peroxide levels and fatty acids were unchanged.

Stability during the cooking/baking process:

*Ratnayake WMN, Behrens WA, Fischer PWF, L'Abbe MR, Mongeau R, and Beare-Rogers JL. "Flaxseed: Chemical Stability and Nutritional Properties." Journal of Nutritional Biochemistry. 3(1992): 232-240.

Summary: whole and milled flaxseed was heated for 60 minutes at either 212 degrees F or 662 degrees F. No changes in peroxide values and fatty acid composition were noted.

*Chen Z-Y, Ratnayake WMN, and Cunnane SC. "Stability of flaxseed during baking." Journal of American Oil Chemist Society. 71(1992): 629-632.

Summary: Baked whole and milled flaxseed at 350 degrees F for 90 minutes, no changes in fatty acid composition. Muffins made with flaxseed were baked at 350 degrees F for 2 hours. No change was noted in the ALA content, and other fatty acids.

*Cunnane SC, Hamadeh MJ, Liede AC, Thompson LU, Wolever TM, and Jenkins DJ. "Nutritional attributes of traditional flaxseed in healthy young adults."American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.61(1995): 62-68.

Summary: Healthy, young adults(22-28 yrs. old)[n=10,5 female,5 male] ate 2 muffins each day(total of 50 grams milled flaxseed) for 4 weeks. Each adult stored their weekly muffin supply in the freezer and defrosted when needed. Baking the muffins did not change the ALA content and thiobarbituric acid-reactive substances. The antioxidant vitamins retinol and alpha-tocopherol remained unchanged in plasma; products of lipid peroxidation in plasma and urine also remained similar to control group(no flax). Demo'd raises of n-3 PUFA in plasma and adipose tissue and markedly increases in urinary lignan excretion(more than fivefold).

*Cunnane SC, Ganuli S, Menard C, Liede C, Hamadeh MJ, Chen Z-Y, Wolever TM, and Jenkins DJ. "High-alpha-linolenic acid flaxseed: some nutritional properties in humans."British Journal of Nutrition. 69(1993): 443-453.

Summary: Nine college women consumed 50 g milled flaxseed for 4 weeks two different ways. Five women at the milled flaxseed raw, to their food of their choice, such as breakfast cereal, soup, juice, or yogurt. Four women consumed bread baked with milled flaxseed in place of their usual bread. The plasma fatty acid profile were not significantly different between the two groups. This shows that baking did not effect the bioavailability of flaxseed fatty acids. The MDA(malondialdehyde)[lipid peroxidation product] was not significantly increased in the muffins, hence baking time and temp did not affect it. Thiocyanate excretion was reduced below detectable limits in the muffin group, so cooking it seems to eliminate it. Other group showed thiocyanate excretion slightly, and relative to creatinine excretion.

*Muir AD and Westcott ND. "Quantitation of the lignan Secoisolariciresinal Diglucoside in baked goods containing flaxseed or flaxmeal. Proceedings of the 56 Flax Institute of the US(1996): 81-85.

Summary: Samples of flaxbread, white bread, whole wheat bread, flax muffins, flax bagels and flax cookies were obtained from bakeries. SDG was found in all samples of flax containing baked goods--suggested that SDG was conserved during the baking process.

*Nesbitt P, Lam Y, and Thompson LU. "Human metabolism of mammalian lignan precursors in raw and processed flaxseed." American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 69(1999): 549-555.

Summary: Nine women ate 5,15, or 25 grams milled raw flaxseed(in applesauce) or 25 grams processed(muffin or bread) daily for eight days. Urinary lignan levels were similar no matter how the flax was consumed.

*Nesbitt PD and Thompson LU. "Lignans in Homemade and Commercial Products Containing Flaxseed." Nutrition and Cancer. 29(1997): 222-227.

Summary: Twenty-five foods including raw flaxseed, homemade products containing flaxseed, and commercial breads and breakfast cereals with and without flaxseed were subjected to an in vitro fermentation designed to simulate the colonic environment necessary for the conversion of plant precursors to mammalian lignans. The homemade bread, muffin, and pizza dough(containing 6.9, 8.0, and 13.2% respectively), were baked at 375 degrees F. The homemade pancake was griddle-baked at 400 degrees F for 10 minutes. Definitely showed an increase in production of mammalian lignans of all foods tested. The amount of lignan production was linearly dependent on the percent flaxseed but was also influenced by other grains and the variety of flaxseed.

*Tarpila S, Aro A, Salminen I, Tarpila A, Kleemola P, Akkila J, Adlercreutz H. " The effect of flaxseed supplementation in processed foods on serum fatty acids and enterolactone." European Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 56(2002): 157-165.

Summary: Controlled, double-blind and cross-over manner study. Eight subjects were randomized to diet sequences AB or BA. Diet A meals contained 1.3 g ground flax and 5 g flaxseed oil. Also 3-4 g inulin and wheat fiber was added. AB diet with non-suppl foods served as control. Test subjects were on both diets for 4 weeks separated by a 4-week wash-out period. Serum thiocyanate and blood cadmium values did not exceed reference values and there was no difference between the diets.

*Manthey F, Lee R, and Kegode R. "Quality of Spaghetti Containing Ground Flaxseed." Proceedings of the 58^th Flax Institute of the US(2000): 92-99.

Summary: Spaghetti was made containing 2.5, 5, 10, and 15 % ground flaxseed. Quality of spaghetti was better with fine than with coarse ground flaxseed. Protein stayed intact.

*Manthey F, Lee R, and Hall C. "Stability of Alpha-Linolenic Acid in Macaroni Containing Ground Flaxseed." Proceedings of the 59^th Flax Institute of the US(2002): 14-20.

Summary: Macaroni was fortified with 20%(wt/wt) ground flaxseed and sampled every 2 weeks for the first 12 weeks and then every 4 weeks for the following 20 weeks(study lasted for 32 weeks[8 months]). Macaroni was cooked in boiling water for 12 minutes. ALA remained the same during the whole storage process and after cooked.

*Manthey F, Lee R, and Hall C. "Processing and cooking effects on lipid content and stability of alpha-linolenic acid in spaghetti containing ground flaxseed." J Agric Food Chem. 50(2002): 1668-1671.

Summary: ALA remained stable during the processing and cooking of spaghetti fortified with ground flaxseed.

7/01/02 Updated by Jane Reinhardt-Martin, RD; www.FlaxRD.com

Mike -
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I think he was only thrilled to see assertive advertising about Dr Budwig and
her methods. It's a pretty obscure cure and nice to see others can learn.
By the way, my friend with MDS has been taking 4 t fo/cc daily for about 5
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cell transplant doesn't appear to have worked, but we won't know for another
week. However, his blood transfusions have gone from once a week to twice a
month, so maybe that's a good sign.
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Lorenzo
I am truly surprised at you! What a cash grab this post is!! If you wanted us to know what these "two delicious foods" are, you could have told us. Instead, you tease us into visiting a site, which then has a captive audience, and sets us up to tout a BOOK FOR SALE, tah dah, without mentioning the names of the foods.
I will control myself and not give vent to my frustrations - which I have been known to do and later regretted.
Morton

Good Article!
I feel it is a waste of my time to post to this group
with all the "noise". Something this important seems
to be ignored. I have always wondered what would happen
it the "powers that be" decided to depopulate the world
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Maybe the Swedish Scientists are not looking for an alien
prion. Enjoy your soy!
Rick
BTW - Cliff check Larrys group for my latest posting.
You'll find the total answer - which is also what
Budwig was driving at!

emphasizing the part about food only, and am " no comment" on the
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homework. Monsanto, it seems continues its nefarious/rotten policies
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wherein a Pansy Molecule, a Cockcroach Molecule and an
"unidentified third Molecule" have been put into the GMO soy. This
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Please provide the data to support your claim---- Many sellers of Redmond salt will object to your unverified claim.

Lorenzo

Readers remember ANYONE CAN PUT IN A DEROGATORY CLAIM LIKE THIS ONE ..

Albertson's is selling "Real Salt" from Redmond Utah, Several companies sell this- it is from ancient seas.

Tis a salt I avoid..it was mined in that had been found with Uranium. Someone either on this list or another I share also told of this story. And their are sea Salts, that are not sundried, but electrically dried..which removes valuable minerals..etc.. CELTIC is natually washed up from the ocean, and not dug our of mines..and Celtic-is carefully harvested by salt-farmers with extra generation-passed down trades from one generation to another. And not refined in any way.

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I grind my flax seeds in a blender. Coffee grinders also
work. Some say the seeds should be refrigerated, but I do not think
so. After all, if the oils went rancid in the seeds, the seeds
would not sprout. And flax seeds will sprout fine even after
sitting around for several years. I just use the ground seeds
right away & not let the ground seeds sit around for even an hour.
Alobar

I have had that experience, also, of family members not being able to
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Don't feel badly about people not listening to good sound advise..We all have them in every family..or with our friends, and strangers in the passing.

Today while shopping in a healthfood store for our Barleans flaxseed oil: We found some flaxseeds of the Golden kind..(and bought a bagfull ) mainly to try. 1#-for $1.19..Now we have to find a grinder, or does someone know how we can grind them-until we buy one? And are we to keep the seeds in the refrigerator?.These were on a shelf in a bag.Are they to be also kept cold for best results? No one in the store knew for sure.

Anyway there was another man and woman buying the packages I didn't buy. They loaded their cart. They said that they use them on cereal and on their caseroles after removing from the oven.
They used them to mainly to keep cholesterol down. We got to talking about the Barelans Flaxseed oil. We told them that it also keeps cancer from the body..etc. They were very interested.And said they would buy some. But when I told them they needed the cottage cheese..for protein...etc..well ! it was like speaking to a brick wall. They never heard of this before and said there was other proteins, etc out their that they could eat along with oil, if they chose to do so. They couldn't be convinced they had to mix the oil and cottage cheese together. So I told them to go to the search engines and dig for indormation. I think I'm going to make me up some calling cards, and have E-mails and Groups on them too. Then maybe these people can learn something new. And while talking I got on tintures and iodine. Boy talk about people being unlearned on ways to stay healthy. They will beleive in one=part of something, but ingnore the other parts too. Then I got on Celtic SEA
SALT..ARound, and around we went..until they found a sea salt on a shelf..But now the battle begin..it was not a good kind. But to them as long as it said sea salt..they would ahve still benn arguing with me. Harold I needed you and a few other people shopping with me today. My problem is I am such a healthy-nut, that I just take for granted everyone should be helathy with me. Yet this same couple went over to the herbal products and bought things there..actually neglecting the best herbs.

Now let me take you over to Bunker Hill Cheese house, also called Heini's. We got in there from a line of people off a bus-tour, so this gave us plenty of time to simple many cheeses..CLIff You will have afeast..and you can also freeze it. We tried to avoid any cheese with sugar in it. Yeck..we didn't think you'd like chocolate cheese..or candied cheese with nutmeats, either. Monday Mel, wants to go to Ramsier's Chesse Factory, that use to be out where we all once lived? ( remember around the curve at the covered bridge at Spook Hollow??..but it has moved since that time: it is now out here a few miles on 39 east of us. They have right now a good price on Swiss. And the trail meats..We will try to avoid MSG..if possible.
And I hope we can grate some cheese over salads while visiting you. I love Limburger, and blue-cheese, so I'm bringing a little along.And we will get a couple more cottage-cheese too. Hope you have a good grocery store around close for vegetables. How about Farmers markets?

Hello Miz Judy:

I will go next September 2002. I must say that I am afraid of going because I feel very, very, very fine and I would not stand bad news, but if I am not totally cured at least I am stable. (thanks our Lord and FO/CC). Thank you for your offering. Prayers are welcomed .

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WEll Dear Gaby..you just continue on healing..and I would also like to be there when this doctor sees you. Do you mean 2002 ( This September_ or 2003 September?

Now how else can we help you get better-better, and better?

Love Miz Judy

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Here is where I purchase my celtic salt. 5# for 15,00 Harold

Thanks Harold..Mel is now checking this out..sounds good to us..as along as we don't need to make a minimum order. And the shipping is not more than the order price.

We will also post our findings..But one way or another we want CELTIC SEA SALT..right from FRANCE Ocean..

Miz Judy and Me. Mel

Hello Peter,
I see you have read Dr. Budwig`s lastest work in German, and that you and
Wilhelm has been going back and forth a bit. Several questions popped into
my mind with reference to a part of what you stated: You wrote:

Dorothy: the salt is the very same salt that you purchase. Lwaylok

Okay but what is the Salt from Momma's, is it course or is it already ground..For this will also effect the price..

And with Mountain Momma's, what is the postage and shipping to the rest of us..?? Mr Mel

Can you be so kind as to scan a label to show us? Or tell else what the label says, in ingredients?

Mr.Mel

Wher is the nice large typt you were using?
Harold
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Her is where I purchase my celtic salt. 5# for 15,00 Harold

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Celtic Ocean Sea Salt Crystals are packaged in a clear glass apothecary jar with a large mouth opening, about 1 1/2" wide and with a cork stopper. Crafted with a blown glass loop to hold a simple wooden spoon. The bottle stands about 4" high and is about 2 1/2" wide.

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i'm sure they would. i talked to them about that a few yrs back and was told they would. they are : Mountain Mama"s Natural Foods , 1625 W. Uintah, colorado springs, co.80904 tel 719 -633 4139 good luck

Ken

Might you know if Mountain Mamas will ship to other states?

Thanks, Pat

mel: its the same stuff you buy at Grain N Salt. same label. for flower i put it in the coffee mill for 2 seconds and i havce it.

How then can you get it cheaper? Maybe they buy alot at one time to be able to keep the prices down. I will need to write and ask this question ..to see what answers I get. But again if I'd order from where you get itl.postage is another thing I'd have to add on to that price..which also soon adds up..Somewhere along the line we end up always paying more.

This is indeed something to look into. But I want to make sure my SALT is not mined, and comes direct from the Ocean. And we have to beware of false-ads..because not all salt is SEA salt. And when we say " Take it with a grain of salt" we have to relly consider our health along with it. When I get time I will have Judy dig into some files..and compare..But I believe we also could have each company compare data too.

Thanks for bringing this out. Mr.Mel

mel: its the same stuff you buy at Grain N Salt. same label. for flower i put it in the coffee mill for 2 seconds and i havce it.

you are paying alot of money. i purchase gray celtic salt at Mountain Mama"s here in colorado springs for $4.40 a pound. Grain and Salt are way over board on their prices. i used to buy from them but now get the same thing ast almost dirt cheap prices. ken

you are paying alot of money. i purchase gray celtic salt at Mountain Mama"s here in colorado springs for $4.40 a pound. Grain and Salt are way over board on their prices. i used to buy from them but now get the same thing ast almost dirt cheap prices. ken

Yeah..but where and how is it gathered is a very important factor. Is it gathered by hand, or by machines..Is it bleached out by the sun and wind, or in a factory with blowers that dry out minerals needed? And what is added or not added that is important to consider too.

Mr.Mel

The store has it and charges about $10.00 (US) for an eight ounce..bottle. Is this a reasonable price for Celtic Salt?

Celtic Sea Salt 1/2 pound is 8 ounces..$5.50 up to $11.50

Something about the Gray is different and better.. Flower of the Ocean is the best. WE are members of the Grain and Salt Society, and this gives us the cheaper price like 1/2 off of salts.

Depends on how much you want to be a one year member Jr.$15.00 a year membership: for Celtic Sea Salt.. $2.75 half pound..$5.75 for another grade, and Best is flower of the ocean $14.25

Two year Memeber.. is $25.00 member a year.. Always 1/2 price off of salt..

WE buy direct and not through middle man..

Mr.Mel

Albertson's is selling "Real Salt" from Redmond Utah, Several companies sell this- it is from ancient seas.

Tis a salt I avoid..it was mined in that had been found with Uranium. Someone either on this list or another I share also told of this story. And their are sea Salts, that are not sundried, but electrically dried..which removes valuable minerals..etc.. CELTIC is natually washed up from the ocean, and not dug our of mines..and Celtic-is carefully harvested by salt-farmers with extra generation-passed down trades from one generation to another. And not refined in any way.

In a message dated 7/20/02 1:40:22 AM, hlmiles@... writes:
<< The store has it and charges about $10.00 (US) for an eight ounce
bottle. Is this a reasonable price for Celtic Salt?
I've been using Celtic Seasalt for several years. I order it online from The
Grain &
Salt Society http://www.celtic-seasalt.com The price for non-members is
$10
per pound. It's delicious. Makes just about anything taste better.
dorothy

Part One: (To Char)

Hi Char,

Nice to touch base with again! I am impressed with your Rife work on Harmonics. But this posting below greatly puzzles me because it seems someone has given you his "intepretation" about DR. Budwig, which needs a lot of correcting.

Your friend [ unnamed] seems to have given you some wrong impressions about Dr. Budwug`s views on Flaxseed oil and Flaxseeds themselves. Quoting your e-mail, you write what your friend related to you about this ...."..and in that book, it states that it is better to use freshly-ground flax seed as opposed to the oil...and that the oil will begin deteriorating within 6 hours of being extracted from the seed, irregardless of the method of extraction. The impression my friend got, is that the best healing power is latent in the entire seed, provided it has never been heated. The proportions are 1/4 c. ground-up seed with 1/4 c. cottage cheese."..

.Yes, Char, you well know that Seeds are loaded with unused energy and nutrients, but the Dr Budwig Protocol of Flaxseed Oil with low fat Cottage Cheese is the delivery system to get the Flaxseed Oil into a water soluble form, so the Omega 3 can be readily absorbed into the body. The Flaxseed Oil provides the Omega 3 and the Diary product contributes the "sulferated proteins" in this combination.

In Dr. Budwig`s book, "FlaxOil As A True Aid Against Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer And Other Diseases" she talks in depth about Flaxseed Oil being mixed with Quark, in order to derive the optimum benefit from Omega 3, which is missing in just about all of our food due to the hydrogenation techniques used by the Food Processing Industry. She does mention also obtaining great benefit from grinding up Flaxseeds themselves and adding it to the combination of Flaxseed Oil and Quark (Cottage Cheese). She suggests ,also,in her " Oil -Protein Diet Cookbook", sprinkling freshly ground up Flaxseeds over Muesli for breakfast, etc. But her main point is to use the Flaxseed Oil combined with the Low Fat Quark (Cottage Cheese).That is her main successful protocol which has saved thousands, some on Death`s doorstep... No where does she state to use Flaxseeds "in lieu" of Flaxseed Oil. Perhaps your friend can look in the book he has and find the reference. In the meantime I`m send
this to the Flaxseed Oil List for further comments.I`ll keep you posted.

One more thing, Dr, Budwig cautions that when grinding up the Flaxseeds, they must be used within 10 -12 minutes or the benefit is lost.Thank, Char, I`ll stand corrected if I`m wrong. All the best, Mike Cinelli
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Part Two: To Chris Gupta

Hi Chris,

You quote a fellow ( also unnamed) who sent you his version of Cliff Beckwith`s story. Cliff Beckwith is the List Owner of Flaxseed Oil2. Unfortunately, it looks like this fellow, too, has mixed up Cliff Beckwith`s whole story, similar to what Char`s friend did with Dr. Budwig. I will post for you the real Cliff Beckwith story soon , so the one you mention below can be corrected.

One point, Cliff uses the Flaxseed Oil/Cottage Cheese Combination as his Mainstay Protocol, and, attributes his being here today to this Dr. Budwig combination protocol. Yes, eleven years ago, he was diagnosed with Stage IV Prostae cancer, and the Medicoes "wanted to do their job" but he refused and has survived thanks, to the DR. Budwig protocol. Yes, his relationship with his Oncologist is aimiable but he follows his head and she is all ears to hear of his successes. Yes, he does use Megadoses of Vitamin with his Beta Glucan...but the rest needs a better explanation than what`s mentioned, to wit, his use of "The HRT". That part is very suspicious....More later, Ciao for now. Thanks and best, Mike Cinelli

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I have seen it between five and ten dollars a pound. It is very good.
Lona
Did you know they radiated babies? See health links.
http://tahomagirl.com

A few days ago, someone recommended Celtic Salt; I believe the person lived
in Australia. Anyway, at the local health food store I inquired about the
salt. The store has it and charges about $10.00 (US) for an eight ounce
bottle. Is this a reasonable price for Celtic Salt?
Henry

Hi Cynthia,

Gorillas do eat some meat if they can get it.

Wilhelm,

In the US short quotes are permitted by copyright law. Also one may write and describe in ones own words whatever is reported in the book.

I read the other day that a scientist in Switzerland is forbidden to publish his findings of a study he did as it may hurt sales of the product he tested.

We are still free in the USA to say what we wish if it is what we find out by tests. We can even lie about public persons, but not about private persons.

Lorenzo

Wilhelm -
At 21:02 Uhr +0200 19.07.2002, wilhelmh2 wrote:
/something snipped/
Of course it's understandable, but it doesn't help neither the matter,
nor her, nor us.
Here we come closer to the problem.
If I'm going to help sick people I have to convince many of them, not
just some freaks. This includes the scientific community.
You do this using the accepted procedures - documentation is crucial.
If the documentation is missing, the testimonials are considered
suspicious. Testimonials are an attachment to a good documentation.
There is no clear structure. This is not her fault alone. The editors
didn't do a good job.
I just finished a 6 weeks turn with artemisinin + the Budwig protocol.
My PSA decreased, the fPSA increased.
Was it A or B or synergy?
For the next 6 months I will only stick with B. Then we will see.
This will be a double blind study (both eyes closed,-)
Regards
Peter

Henry,

Could you ask if there are Good Earth stores in SLC or Ogden? I sometimes get there.

Two years ago I bought 50 lbs. from Minn The brown is $12 or the "gold" organic $25 but the UPS form Minn. was $25.

I still have some seed but it is getting old now. Time to give it to the Chickens.

Thanks Henry,

Lorenzo

It6'll be ready, that's for sure!

Lorenzo,

What are your four brands of sea salt? I am going to look for one.
Thanks.

Carolyn

And many thanks to people like you, I will stay in business! LOL!
Melanie

Meat is fine, if we do not over indulge in it..But not 3-times a day do we need steak.

Hey Melanie..get that grill ready..I want my meat too when we visit.

Miz Judy

thanks melanie. So glad your mother survived her heart surgery,. Have
several friends who has had it done. When you run your own business, you
have so... stress to deal with, running around, up and down, paying bills,
dealing with customers, wondering where the money is going to come from when
business is slow, etc, etc, and then the stress of dealing with sickness, or
mishaps, or whatever, My brains and body just works better with all the
combinations of food products, Cynthia

And many thanks to people like you, I will stay in business! LOL!
Melanie

That is so funny, gorillas eat leaves!! No, I have chewed wheat grass, but
never swallowed it!! Ha , Ha, I'm still going to eat meat!! Love Cynthia

I'm not going to change my mind about my meat products, I work and have a lot
of stress running our flower shop, and even though gorillas don't eat meat, I
still need my meat!! I don't eat a whole lot of meat, but will continue
being a MEATEATER!!
Cynthia

Meateater, Mjh, I had a piece of breast from Kentucky fried chicken, coleslow
and half a biscuit at lunch. So, you are a meateater too?! Cynthia

Hi all,

This posting came from a cross group, Cancercured. I am only emphasizing the part about food only, and am " no comment" on the political aspects because everyone has to decide these matters for him/herself, especially when they are speculative and unproven.

On the food part, there is not much "speculation", if you do your homework. Monsanto, it seems continues its nefarious/rotten policies with impunity...as Swedish Scientists have pointed out re: GMO soy, wherein a Pansy Molecule, a Cockcroach Molecule and an "unidentified third Molecule" have been put into the GMO soy. This GMO Soy is found in just about all products readily available and NOT IDENTIFIED in supermarkets and elsewhere.[ No GMO labeling is required by Law at this time] in the USA.

My question: Soy anyone?

Thanks and best, Mike Cinelli

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Hi John,
1.You wrote below: "I'm curious what [ Udo] Erasmus' reaction would be to
the idea of putting flax oil in an electric blender."...Johm, why don`t you
ask him? He`s easily available because he lives in Van Couver [not Germany].
2. You also wrote: "Perhaps Dr. Budwig would ask herself whether it's
possible, that electric blending is reducing the effectiveness of her
formula. After all, she may be getting success with her formula "in spite
of" electric blending, and might get a higher percentage of successes if she
stopped using blenders, and mixed by hand. I doubt that Dr. Budwig is
resistant to the idea, that her methods are incapable of being improved.
Perhaps Dr. Budwig only "suspects" that electric blending is a good idea,
but doesn't really know if it is."
Answer: I let a few days go by before I answered this laughable posting by
you..., just to make sure that my feelings to your e-mail were the same.
They are. What you have written about Dr. Budwig can easily be interpreted
as not only rude and impolite but shows the lack of manners and discretion
within you and your mindset. John, once before I asked you why you think
that Dr. Budewig should answer to you...now I repeat the same question. How
can anyone be so impolite unless he were trying to discredit Dr, Budwig?...
which I believe you are, and have been trying to do for months. It might be
a good idea for you to reassess where you stand in the Universe...Take it
easy, slow down and get your priorities right. In fact, let`s forget you
even wrote this bit, O.K.?
All the best for good health, Mike Cinelli
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it's damaging to flax oil, to shake the container it is in too much. He
suggests handling the oil as gently as possible.
the advisibility of using a blender with her formula, for fear that the oil
would be unacceptably damaged.
oil, if he could be persuaded that whatever losses in the quality of the oil
result from electric blending, are amply compensated by the increased
therapeutic effectiveness, maximum blending of FO with CC allows. Erasmus
is also of the opinion that flax oil is much more fragile, in general, than
other researchers and doctors believe it to be, and that it will become
rancid much more quickly than others think it will. Maybe he's right maybe
he's wrong.
blending is reducing the effectiveness of her formula. After all, she may
be getting success with her formula "in spite of" electric blending, and
might get a higher percentage of successes if she stopped using blenders,
and mixed by hand. I doubt that Dr. Budwig is resistant to the idea, that
her methods are incapable of being improved. Perhaps Dr. Budwig only
"suspects" that electric blending is a good idea, but doesn't really know if
it is.
blended with CC to have a satisfactory therapeutic effect, I'll continue to
mix thoroughly by hand.

Lorenzo -
I bought "The oil-protein food/Oel-Eiweiss-Kost) first, then "Cancer,
the problem and the solution", both in German.
I was not amazed about the latter one.
Besides some bio-chemical basics there are testimonials and a lot of
self-defense.
The book is hard to read for a non-biochemist and scientists will not
consider it as clearly written.
I stick to the manual (the first one).
Regards
Peter

^^^^^^
but you spice it with Spanish,-)

Be sure to turn off all automatic functions & close program
before removing it.
Alobar

Dear all,

This is sally and this is my weekend signup.

Sally
[INLINE]

Hello Miz Judy and all the members:

My oncologist must think that I am dead person, he sent me home with no choice or hope since more than a year and a half ago. I will visit him next September (Lord´s willing) I want to see his face when he sees me.

Gaby.

WEll Dear Gaby..you just continue on healing..and I would also like to be there when this doctor sees you. Do you mean 2002 ( This September_ or 2003 September?

Now how else can we help you get better-better, and better?

Love Miz Judy

I want to alert all that the annual Cancer Control Convention will be held
again at the Universal Sheraton Hotel in Universal City (Los Angeles) on
Labor Day weekend. I have been attending these conventions for the last 15
yrs and have learned a LOT about taking care of myself. There are numerous
exhibit booths which are free to visit, if you want to attend the lectures
it costs $25 per day. I will be getting more info as to who the speakers
will be and will forward this when I get it. I urge all who are able to
attend at least one of the three days, you wont regret it and it could save
your life.
Kathryn

To uninstal anything not wanted..go to your add and remove..follow down til you find what it is you don't want..Click it on, and go to uninstall. It will do it for you..

Now if you wnat it back in..and if this was installed with a CD..do that way..if not go back to where your search engines are and type in the program you wish to install..Follow those diretions..

Remember this all programs need to be refreshed..by keeping all scanners systems up to date. I have just in three days been cleaning out my computer files, re-adding, and taking out what I don't want. My McAffee ran outl..and I still like my Norton..but notice someone sent another one to look intowww.grisoft.com I might try it for awhile..but wonder if it and Norton will entangle and cause another problem.

Right now I'm having troubles keeping my internet server working.

Lorenzo:
I buy the seeds at The Good Earth health food store in Orem, Utah. This store sells them in bulk for that price. These seeds are dark brown. The lighter colored seeds sell for $1.25 and I do not know the difference but from the description on the bulk site, the brown ones seemed to have more nutrients. I plan to visit Good Earth today and will ask them the price of 100 pounds and ask about the cost of shipping the seeds to Wyoming. If you are planning to drive here, Orem is located about 40 miles south of Salt Lake City; Orem blends into Provo, which you have heard of because it is the home of Brigham Young University.
Henry

Hello:

Thank you I will install it.

Gaby.

Lorenzo <lorenzo1@...

I like the AVG grisoft antivirus, been using the free version for six months.

Lorenzo

I'm so sorry your friend is so sick. What is ALS?
naturalhijean

Driping kefir thru a cloth for a few hours makes a delicious lowfat cheese.
naturalhijean

Sometimes the web is a real safety net! You are in good company here
and are not alone. Keep those questions coming!
naturalhijean

Lorenzo,

Some people soak just rinse the flax seeds, then soak them overnight and the next day, drink the jell to help their elimination! So different people value different aspects of flaxseeds.

I believe flaxseeds are more easily digested when soaked before grinding.

natural hijean

I have soaked flax seeds. They ooze a jelly like substance.

There is something to this: Does someone have more information on soaking, what the jelly is, do they digest if soaked a longer time?

Lorenzo

Hi!
Wheat grass is so tough it needs a special wheat grass juicer. I
juice my own. Some folks have it juiced in front of them in a health
food store. Having it freshly juiced is real important, I believe.
naturalhijean

Hi, Wilhelm --
Blending it with some kefir grinds it up very fine. Soaking it gets
rid of enzyme inhibitors, and brings the seeds to life, making them
more nutritious than dry seeds.
naturalhijean

Hello Miz Judy and all the members:

My oncologist must think that I am dead person, he sent me home with no choice or hope since more than a year and a half ago. I will visit him next September (Lord´s willing) I want to see his face when he sees me.

Gaby.

"Miz Judy and Mr. Mel" <mrjau@...

WEll the energy for me is picking up..and Here it is almost at 12:00 AM. We have been out 8 hours looking for a car. We finally think we found one we like and can afford.

I am so glad that the Flaxseed oil and cottage cheese is working for you Gaby. What do your doctors think of you with this great engery?

Love Miz Jduy

Hi Wilhelm,

I worked in Wiesbaden, for three years , until 1948, and finally could talk to most people quite comfortably before leaving.

Later in schooling the USA, I had to translate part of the book "Bambi" into English;-----it was slow work as there were old words and idioms I had never heard of .

However I sometimes write book reports;

It would seem to me that if I had been in Germany for a few more years I could write good book reports in English from German books.

Do you know of anyone who would simply translate, (report) the basics of what Dr. Budwig wrote in German into English?

I could polish the English, that is one of my talents.

Aber Ich habe bald todos das Deutsche vergessen.

(ncluding the spelling)

Lorenzo

Please:

The Gorilla eats mostly leaves, If you think your digestive system is for eating mostly leaves --please eat leaves.

otherwise I think that is bad information.

Please search the "paleo diet" articles for what Gorillas eat and why, and Also what our ancestors ate one million years and 20,000 years ago for what our digestive system is good at.

Twenty or forty hours reading of the data on paleo diet should convince you that "Dr. Furhman" is a poor researcher and that He is hopelessly confused.

Hi Everybody:

It seems my MacAfee virus scan is not working as weel as it should be, it apears on the screen the next text: worm/yaha.f in Recycled/cuje.exe, how can I get rid of it for free without paying another program ? any idea will be welcomed .

Thank you.

Gaby.

Hello Starris: [INLINE]

I do not know how to uninstall it, can I install the new one without doing it?

Thank you for your quick response.

Gaby.

Starris <starrisg@...

Thanks Lorenzo, I'm in complete agreement with you here.
Apart from better for your health, it actually tastes much better too.
Hanneke Australia

sold in the store has only one salt, NaCl, left after it is
purified----while sea salt has some 80 trace minerals in the form of
various salts---
prepared to spend to cure your mineral deficiencies due to eating
modern "pure salt".
as Fake sea salts are allowed to be sold under the label SEA SALT.
That is the only reason I say Celtic Sea Salt, some other sea salts
are possible similar. I have four brands in my kitchen.

Cynthia:
In his book, Fasting and Eating for Health, Dr Furhman, who prescribes
vegetables and fruits says the human digestive system is most like a
gorilla's. Gorillas he says are vegetarians and he says some weigh up to 800
pounds (I hope I recall correctly) and they get plenty of energy from their
diet. I have been on vegetables and fruits for about two years after a life
of beefsteak and I do not notice a diminution of energy. (I haven't measured
my gas production. :-) )
Henry

Cynthia
No need to apologize, just wanted you to know that being meatless did not have to mean being malnourished, weak and dizzy.
Meateater
mjh
In a message dated 7/18/02 10:52:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, karatbird@... writes:

Hi, I'm sorry to say, but I still will stick with chicken, fish and some
other protein. Afraid that beans and peas all day will create, a lot of
flatuence for me!! I am hard headed , and will want some type of meat
daily. Thanks anyways!! Cynthia

Wilhelm:
Thank you. Do you know if anyone is planning to translate the book into
English?
Henry

It was confirmed today, my best friend, a women who I have known since our
kids were in grade school, whom I worked with on the school board, who I
hiked with, watched political debates with, watched our children grow up
together, who I laughed with and cried with has ALS. She said to please
live the rest of my life to the fullest, as if every day were my last, and
don't put off telling people you love them. Life gets petty sometimes, and
when I look at the bottom of why, it is nothing but a grain of sand on the
earth, not worth the anger or pettiness.
If anyone has ever heard of anyone being cured from ALS, and we have both
searched the net high and low, please email me off list to tell me how.
With sadness,
Lona
Henry Ward Beecher:
"Now comes the mystery."
Did you know they radiated babies? See health links.
http://tahomagirl.com

Just to clear up a salt question---------( I sell no salt, no books) I am only an educator on this subject.

Human blood, ours, contains almost the same proportion of trace minerals as Sea Water!

Think about that.

Salt made from Sea Water will tend to have almost exactly the same trace elements as our blood.

Think about that.

Now do I have to tell you that the cooking salt, the "pure salt" sold in the store has only one salt, NaCl, left after it is purified----while sea salt has some 80 trace minerals in the form of various salts---

And then will you tell us how many thousands of $Dollars you are prepared to spend to cure your mineral deficiencies due to eating modern "pure salt".

When I suggest "Sea Salt" It is necessary to name a real Sea Salt as Fake sea salts are allowed to be sold under the label SEA SALT. That is the only reason I say Celtic Sea Salt, some other sea salts are possible similar. I have four brands in my kitchen.

Lorenzo

Hi, I'm sorry to say, but I still will stick with chicken, fish and some
other protein. Afraid that beans and peas all day will create, a lot of
flatuence for me!! I am hard headed , and will want some type of meat
daily. Thanks anyways!! Cynthia

I have soaked flax seeds. They ooze a jelly like substance.

There is something to this: Does someone have more information on soaking, what the jelly is, do they digest if soaked a longer time?

Lorenzo

Henry,
I should have mentioned that this book is only availble in the
German language.
It's title in German is 'Krebs - Das Problem und die Lösung'.
If you are still interested, you can get it at this address:
Gesundheitsprodukte-Reformwaren Th.Bloching,
72250 Freudenstadt, Birkenweg 3, Germany
Tel: 07441-2877
Fax: 07441-85765
You may also get it through Amazon.
That would be Amazon.de
Wilhelm

Cynthia
Eating healthy is not more expensive ...... learn to love and combine whole grains and dried beans and peas and season them with gusto. This will provide you with energy, staying power plus good nutrition.
mjh
In a message dated 7/18/02 8:31:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, karatbird@... writes:

Do what you feel is comfortable. I work very hard during the day, and can't
afford to eat just vegetables and juices, I probably would get too faint and
woozy, without more nutrition.

Dear Sally: I wish back 5 years ago, I was able to research and find out
about flaxseed oil, for my poor dead mother, who had pancreatic cancer. You
are not alone in this group, we all will help you. so you are not alone. We
have used our credit cards so much this past 2 years trying to help my cancer
also. So, you are foolish, but smart to be able to find this flax oil group,
in the first place.
You wrote about meat, and what to do about eating certain things. I was
going to be a vegetarian, and told my oncologist I was going to give up meat
when we had our first visit with him, after my hysterectomy. He is of Indian
descent, from Indian, and he said that he didn't think it was a good idea for
me to give up my meat. Back then, I was anemic, this was, before my cancer
was discovered.
Do what you feel is comfortable. I work very hard during the day, and can't
afford to eat just vegetables and juices, I probably would get too faint and
woozy, without more nutrition.
Your mum is so lucky to have someone like you. Your mom still can be saved!!
Your doctor needs to be kicked in the butt!! There are a lot of
alternatives out there, and faith in God!!
Fondly, Cynthia

If it wasn't for Celtic Sea Salt Mel might not be here today. We found out back in 1980's that he was not getting proper intake just from table-refined salt.A doctor and another Amish man told him he should have a salt that heals. and that was Sea Salt. But we never thought about that again until about two years ago when Mel had another attack..which nearly again cost him his life..This is when we begin to think there had to be something to this kind of salt. And reading, and talking to other people using Celtic Sea salt, and making several phone calls to the FRANCE headquarters, and talking to people there..etc.we decided to give this healing salt a trial run.

That very first summer Mel never once had an salt-attack that caused him to break out in boil like symptoms..Just as soon as we tossed the refined processed salt, out of our foods, and off our table: and begin using the Celtic-Sea Salt..we noticed a great improvement within a weeks time. And many things that we had not before realized that was killing us was now healing us.

Now this spring and summer Mel is still in good health..and never gets these salt-attacks, no matter what job he is doing. ( he would get to the place he felt like his body was on fire, and itching, was all over his face, while using regular table salt. And his entire body would break out in pimple like boils, where-ever he sweated the most..usually the face and neck and back, and inner thighs and buttocks.

Also come to find out that the regular salt didn't have enough iodine to fool with, that the body so needed, one would nearly have to take the entirely of the box to get the trace necessary.

WE now use iodine just from the bottle, and apply it directly to the flesh: the size of a 50 cent piece. If it fades away in less than an hour we know we need more.If it last up to two hours we know it is plenty. We test ourselves at least once a week. But we also know that by using Coral Calcium, there is 100 % in taking 3-per-day..but we get probably 85 % percentage in the 2-

Capsules, per day. So with the flesh test, and this we know we are on the right track for ourselves.

We travel with our Celtic SEA salt..And use it in Restaurants and if we eat at friends homes/ etc. Many of our friends also are now using it on their own tables.

And we are so glad when many places we eat out, don't use salt like they use to on some foods, this than gives us opportunity to use our own, if we feel it necessary. If we are out shopping and it is an extra hot day, Mel has need of salt, we will stop to dine, and use our Celtic SEA SALT.

Miz Judy and Mr.Mel

Hi all,
I jsut want to thank everyone for all their advice. its been a great
help to me. I ask all these questions because in Australia its very
far behind the times. we have no alternative cancer treatment
centres. We have a lack of information. I can't even manage to find
Dr budwigs book here.
the only way I can get it is with a credit card over the internet. I
have no one here I can go to for advice. My mums oncolagist just
said go home and die, you have had one year cancer free, and then
insisted on getting the pallative care people in.
I am completely alone in australia, but when i come on the computer I
am not alone, so i am sorry if I keep asking stupid questions but i
am trying to gather as much information as I can so I can keep my mum
healthy as I am only 24 and I am not prepared to let my mum die.
Sally
--
Experience is a hard teacher, she gives the test first the lesson after
Work like you dont need the money
Love like you've never been hurt
and dance like no one is watching
SAlly
GPO BOX 2100
Adelaide SA 5001

Yes, I've had five malignant breast tumors. At the beginning, I had
lumpectomies and radiation, but these last two I'm keeping an eye on
with sonograms and doctor check-ups, and dealing with exclusively
with diet, sunshine (augmented by an infra red lamp) and a cheerful
attitude!
Jean

This is my answer from Alene Lev-Asher at Barleans.. Miz Judy

Hello, thank you for contacting us. Here are the answers: Mixing the cottage cheese with the oil is recommended for cancer patients since it does help them to absorb and breakdown the oil better due to the sulphur-based protein in the cottage cheese. I feel the lignan oil is better since the lignan/seed particulate has anti viral, anti bacterial, anti fungal properties, and helps with digestion and hormone modulation. The bottle says to shake well and that stirring may be necessary to fully disperse the lignans--I find that laying the bottle on it's side in the refrigerator helps. Yes, many people do grind flax seeds to get more fiver and to ingest more of the lignan/particulate. Dr. Budwig is in her 90's and is not really open to seeing new patients--she is very difficult to get to see since it requires a trip there----if you are dealing with cancer then there are many natural healing centers that can deal with this disease within the USA. The Oil Protein Diet Cookbook
will help you as well. Bruce Barleans has spent time with Dr. Budwig on several occasions and she is on the up and up and very intelligent----I doubt that she would have had many changes in her way of doing things--she based her treatment on the way flax (Omega 3) works, and that does not change. I am not sure what you need to be "cleared up"--do you mean taking ground seed for extra lignans? We never add seed particulate into the oil after we make it--the lignan/particulate that is in each bottle (about 19% of the total bottle) comes through naturally in the pressing of the oil. We do not add or take away anything from the oil as it is pressed or bottled. I hope this information helps. Best of Health, Alene

Hi, where do you get your wheat juice? I bought some wheat grass sod at
Whole Foods while I was in Dallas. Chewing on the grass, I couldn't really
taste the juice. So, do you juice your own wheat grass?
cynthia

Hi Hanneke,
Good point about the celtic sea salt.
I mentioned it because Lornezo once corrected me when I made the
same comment "...with a grain of salt".
Other than that it was not meant as a wild statement.
We use it in this household and believe in it's value for the iodine
and trace minerals it provides to the diet.
Regards,
Wilhelm

(celtic sea salt...right
Just in case this comment was meant to dismiss it as some other wild
statement, I'd like to add that although the use of salt is
recommended to be used very sparingly, there is more to salt then
most people realise. Cooking salt is highly processed, with
bleaching agents (dioxin?), anti caking agents to allow it to be free
flowing, inorganic iodine, dextrose and then probably those they
don't want us to know about.
Celtic Seasalt is one of the purest salts, sundried with all the
natural minerals and trace elements, and as such actually beneficial
to health as opposed to the common salt which contributes to many
healthproblems.
Just in case you are curious, just key in celtic sea salt in your
search engine and you will find many websites with valuable
information.
Warmly
Hanneke Australia

Hi.
From what I remember of some of the stories I have read, it seems
that fo/cc can improve the odds of taking chemo in some cases.
By how much I don't know and I personally have no experience with
that.
But chemo does not increase the effectiveness of the fo/cc regimen.
According to Dr.Budwig it opposes it.
Cliff has posted many stories about how people came along nicely
while on fo/cc and then they were talked into taking chemo and
things went bad.
Sorry, that I can't be more positive and give an answer that you
would like to hear.
Wilhelm

program and is it effective if the person cannot (by whatever
reason) stop the chemo? An honest response would be appreciated.
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Hi naturalhijean,
I have heard similar things said before:
"The night before, soak 6 tablespoons organic brown flaxseeds
The next morning, place the seeds in a strainer and with a spoon,
rinse under running water. Blend with a cup of homemade kefir and a
ripe pear or banana. Enjoy!"
According to Dr.Budwig flax seeds should be ground or else they pass
through you undigested.
What is the advantage over ground seeds?
Are they easily chewed in the soaked state?
Wilhelm

Harold
Use Windows Explorer to get to the folder where your Flaxseed msgs are stored. Highlight them all and while highlighted, right click and click on Send to A: (floppy disk). Make sure you have a blank disk in the drive beforehand.
mjh
In a message dated 7/18/02 11:50:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hrand@... writes:

I am wondering if anyone in this group knows how I can transfer all of my file of flax seed message to a 3 1/2 disk without doing it one by one.
Thank you Harold

Hi everyone,
I am brandnew to this group (but certainly not to eating healthfully
as to maintain as close to good health as possible). I don't mean any
offence here but the response in the post of Gerry I find a little
bit troublesome. I agree with the fact that there are many warnings
out there and it can be completely overwhelming to find your way
through all the do's and don'ts. Just remember though: where there
is smoke, there's fire.
With milk products, even though you might not think you have any side
effects you are aware of, unfortunately, by the time you do feel them
(and you will!!), it's often too late. Educating oneself is the only
way to find the answers that suits each person individually. On the
milk issue: opinions are very divided but 2 website links:
www.nomilk.com which deals with the pasteurised milk mainly and milk
in general and then there is : www.realmilk.com, which gives a
different approach with raw (unpasteurised milk)
permission of others ?? If you want to eat dairy products like
cheese, milk, and butter, and it doesn't effect you in any way, why
not ??
Although not an expert by any means, just personal experience
stretching a few decades, and still learning new things (and hope to
learn more from this group, hence my joining).
Cancer feeds on sugar, and that is a fact. Consider sugar a poison
like heroin, and please do not ridicule that sort of information. The
SAD diet as it has developed is a killer and it is irresponsible to
suggest that all the warnings fall under fear mongerers. Be open
minded and willing to learn. Your doctor is trained in
pharmaceuticals, not diet.
causes of cancer, some people cannot handle the lactose so they drink
lactose free milk.
Some people lactose intolerant? you'd be surprised how many are...
just never made the connection (because we all have been brought up
that milk is good for you, isn't that right?).
not to eat, vegetarians warn us against eating meat, some people
cannot eat corn as they can't digest it, ending up with bleeding
bowels, then their are the fear mongers that warn us of eating fish
(mercury poisoning), stay away all sugars, don't eat nightshade foods
(potatoes), white rice is no good (starch). There are so many
warnings out there that we end up having a problem trying to schedule
a decent meal anymore,
About any difficulty preparing a whole somemeal: It's unlearning the
way we have been brought up and once you get into preparing healthful
meals, the choice is limitless. For most it seems it is just too
much of hard work.
Warmly
Hanneke Australia

I am wondering if anyone in this group knows how I can transfer all of my file of flax seed message to a 3 1/2 disk without doing it one by one.
Thank you Harold

Sally.......... are you looking for the permission of others ?? If you want to eat dairy products like cheese, milk, and butter, and it doesn't effect you in any way, why not ??

We receive messages from others that claim milk is one of the causes of cancer, some people cannot handle the lactose so they drink lactose free milk. We are subject to all kinds of daily fears of what to eat and what not to eat, vegetarians warn us against eating meat, some people cannot eat corn as they can't digest it, ending up with bleeding bowels, then their are the fear mongers that warn us of eating fish (mercury poisoning), stay away all sugars, don't eat nightshade foods (potatoes), white rice is no good (starch). There are so many warnings out there that we end up having a problem trying to schedule a decent meal anymore, stay away from soy products, don't eat too much salt, and the list goes on forever. Do what you want Sally, if you haven't got any problems that are related to what you have been eating, however if you do have problems then again you have other decisions and choices to make..... good luck.

Gerry Logan

Hi Mary Jane,
Thanks for your kind comments. It seems you`re on your way! Good luck and
good health to you and your family, Mike Cinelli
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Hi,
thanks for you advice.
really appreicate it. Do u take the combo for specific health reasons.
Sally
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Is it ok to eat dairy products. Like Cheese, Milk and butter.?

Sally

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Hi, Sally,
Here's a salad dressing that I find delectable for my Daily Green Salad:
Avocado Salad Dressing
Juice 1/2 lemon
Mince garlic and scallions and stir into the lemon juice to get mild
Mash an avocado into it
Here's my interpretation of the Budwig Combo. I like it because it's
delicious and releases the oil just before you drink it.---SO FRESH!
The night before, soak 6 tablespoons organic brown flaxseeds
The next morning, place the seeds in a strainer and w