Flax Seeds

Yes and it should be brought into the store from Barleans in an refrigerated truck..then when it gets to the store immediately put in the stores freezers.

Before we bought ours at a local nature food store, we phoned and asked questions.Then when we arrived at the store, again I wanted to see the refrigeration system from which this came. It was a very cold bottle..and we read the label to see how long it will be good for..We have through August on this one to get it used up.

Now that's a nice side effect that I wasn't aware of or even thought about.
The fact that it's a decoction probably helps, too. :-)
Clyde
In a message dated 6/24/02 9:42:59 PM, lorenzo1@... writes:

Should it be refrigerated in the whole foods store? Trader Joes just has it on the shelf.

This group will be for the purpose of information and discussion
concerning the value of Flaxseed Oil in different applications
pertaining to Health and Physical Well being. We will avoid
spiritual discussions.

Well ! Bon..without a BRAIN we couldn't function and think about what to take to help us heal..now could we. If the Brain isn't working the rest of our abilities would be off balance too..HUM!

Hi,
I get the beet C from Dr. Borman who is on this list but very busy. I will
reproduce a message to me that has the source, Arrowhead Health Works, on
it.
I get the Glucan in pound packages. It is no problem to measure out a level
1/8 tsp. for 500 mgs, 1/4 tsp. for 1000 mgs etc. The beet C comes in a
pastic container and 1/4 tsp equals 1000 mgs etc. It dissolves very quickly
in water and it seems to be much more effective than the tablets I used to
get.
In another 3 weeks or so I may know a little more. If the PSA is continuing
down the main reason would have to be the substituting of the beet C plus
for the hard tablets I was using.
Cliff
Dear Cliff:
Hi Cliff. I'm so sad to hear of your ordeal with prostate CA. I think what
you're doing is teriffic. Thank God for your progress.
We originally opened our clinic in TJ in 1992 to treat specifically
prostate
CA
with Hyperthermia (without chemo or radiation). We still treat a large
numberof prostate patients since that was one of Dr. Freeman's specialities.
Yes, glucans + flaxseed oil is excellent. Add some Enzymes when needed and
you've got a great combination.
I have put the link to my website up for you to peruse. Simply go to the
Products site and choose what you want to order. Go to the order page,
printit
off and fill it out and fax it over with a credit card and we'll ship out.
I
have Betacan(tm) 500 in stock (encapsulated pure glucan powder) or just the
raw
powder itself. Most people prefer the encapsulated stuff.
Dr. Bormann
http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com
Mailing address
Arrowhead Health Works
Carolyn Boreman, N. D., C. P.
PO Box 950
Twin Peaks CA 92391
phone 909 338 3533
Fax 909 338 7343
OK...to answer your questions...yes, glucan is a "must have" for cancer
patients.
Here's some copy off my website:
WHAT DOES IT DO AND WHAT IS IT USED FOR?
Basically, what glucans seem to do is to stimulate / irritate your white
blood cells called Macrophages into action. There is actually beta glucan
receptors displayed by immune cells that the lectin fits right into like a
lock and key and switches on or activates the macrophage to do it's
job...clean up. Increased macrophage activity triggers a whole cascade of
immune events, which basically boost immune response, which improves
Natural
Host Resistance. However, RESPONSE IS RECEPTOR MEDIATED (in other words, if
the macrophage in the gut peritoneal lining lymphatics is not displaying a
receptor site for glucan or they're blocked by other lectins, then the
glucan simply passes by and is excreted). There is no danger we know of for
causing excessive macrophage activity and damage the immune response, or
creating an autoimmune condition.
Primarily glucan is used to add immunological punch to products to address
the ever increasing incidence of chronic infections, inflammations
(arthritis), and other immune stressing things like allergies, poor diet,
bad work habits, etc. It is used extensively in the veterinarian industry,
fishing industry, and skin care. Recently it is crossing over into human
nutrition.
It is proven beneficial for conditions related to immunity. available:
This product is important to keep Host Resistance at optimal levels. It is
an excellent antioxidant / free radical scavenger and especially beneficial
for those undergoing treatment for immune-related conditions such as
cancer,
AIDS, CFIDS, or other infections. It is also a good preventative and
booster
for the average person wanting to strengthen their resistance.
In terms of dosage for beta glucan, it's usually figured at a min. of
10mg./kilo of bodyweight per dose...caps are taken at bedtime and upon
rising on an empty stomach. I usually have our cancer patients taking 2
caps twice daily and then we do a darkfield microscopy to see how their
macrophages seem to be doing. Some patients who are early on
in their cancer have intact immune system function and only need 1 cap
twice
daily...some only need 1 cap at bedtime 4 times a week...it depends on the
case.
I'd love to private label it for you if you want for your site...very low
minimums since I control the entire process from manufacture right through
to packaging. Tell me the best way I can help you reach your goal...you
can feel free to
take anything in terms of copy from my website materials also. I've had
alot of experience in this arena so I'll be glad to be of service...
Carolyn Bormann, N.D.,C.P.

I certainly agree in balance and variety, but this post is on brain function???
In a message dated 6/25/02 7:13:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mrjau@... writes:

I thought this list was for cancer and flax oil/cc? Am I missing something?
Bon
************
Yes Bon, it is for F/C..but sometimes there is more to getting well than just OIL alone..and sometimes other people have found that true for themselves: I for ONE..Sometimes it takes both OIL and sometimes two things to even make it work properly..TOXIC-out the passions in the body, and getting every ORGAN to function..Then it is the daily foods, and the beverages we drink..Visits to a doctor to make sure everything is pumping, or we can breath etc..When we find out what is cause of being ill..then we can take the Flaxseed Oil with the cottage Cheese to either begin getting well(ER) or to prevent from getting sicker.
I for one enjoy the data if it is just a little off subject from F/C alone, as long as it gets us in the same subject back on track to F/C..I for one know Doctor Budding, knew that in her time of researching, she knew what she was talking about was right then, as may well be still now..But again I look at her data as so out dated, that since then there is other things that is also working to help many diseases..not just oil alone.Read her books and you will see she just don't talk of FLAXSEED oil. My doctor is so amazed at what the supplements, and my foods are doing for me. And I haven't been on the F/C until recent..so I do not give F?C credit altogether for my cures..and nightwear does she..far from it.BUT! I and Meld are now using it, mainly to see if it will help other things..which when it does I will post those findings. But I do not brag up something I've never used for the purpose of curing cancer alone. I've used Flaxseed oil for hair, cuts, etc, too. Long before I
took cottage cheese with it. We are on the third bottle, and the last one, we begin cottage cheese..Which we take two TBS, for one meal a day, ( we prefer breakfast if possible) And I have to still gag it down, no matter what I put in it. And yes we buy Barents, that is shipped in by refrigerated truck,to our Nature Health food store, not far from us..and they rush it immediately to a freezer. They also donor sell if it is becomes outdated for healing..But when to old I will still find other uses for it.If it gets to smelly..I dump it. Very seldom have I had to do that. My first bottle came from a friend, that didn't know at the time, all there was about Flaxseed oil, so she had left it sit out on a table to long..when she brought it to me to use. 12 years ago when I had cancer..I only used it to rub around the cancer as it was healing, and later I learned it was very good to rub the entire body with it, for after 8 weeks in bed, a persons otters needs healing too. But I
learned from an Amish family that flaxseed was good for keeping away bed-sores.Especially when my elbows got so tender from having to push myself up in bed. Believe me it was welcomed medicine ( salve ) at that time.
MI Judy

OOPs my spell checker I see is changing spelling automatically to its own
way of thinking so I notice it has messed up again on words.. But at this
time I will not fix them all up on the posting last sent..Next time I will
go copy and paste to check them. Sorry.. where I saidTOXIC-out the passions
in the body, and ( whould be posions)so I do not give F?C credit altogether
for my cures..and nightwear does ( neither ) not nighwear.And yes we buy
Barents, that is shipped ( should be Barleans )
etc. Miz Judy

I thought this list was for cancer and flax oil/cc? Am I missing something?
Bon
************

Yes Bon, it is for F/C..but sometimes there is more to getting well than just OIL alone..and sometimes other people have found that true for themselves: I for ONE..Sometimes it takes both OIL and sometimes two things to even make it work properly..TOXIC-out the passions in the body, and getting every ORGAN to function..Then it is the daily foods, and the beverages we drink..Visits to a doctor to make sure everything is pumping, or we can breath etc..When we find out what is cause of being ill..then we can take the Flaxseed Oil with the cottage Cheese to either begin getting well(ER) or to prevent from getting sicker.

I for one enjoy the data if it is just a little off subject from F/C alone, as long as it gets us in the same subject back on track to F/C..I for one know Doctor Budding, knew that in her time of researching, she knew what she was talking about was right then, as may well be still now..But again I look at her data as so out dated, that since then there is other things that is also working to help many diseases..not just oil alone.Read her books and you will see she just don't talk of FLAXSEED oil. My doctor is so amazed at what the supplements, and my foods are doing for me. And I haven't been on the F/C until recent..so I do not give F?C credit altogether for my cures..and nightwear does she..far from it.BUT! I and Meld are now using it, mainly to see if it will help other things..which when it does I will post those findings. But I do not brag up something I've never used for the purpose of curing cancer alone. I've used Flaxseed oil for hair, cuts, etc, too. Long before I
took cottage cheese with it. We are on the third bottle, and the last one, we begin cottage cheese..Which we take two TBS, for one meal a day, ( we prefer breakfast if possible) And I have to still gag it down, no matter what I put in it. And yes we buy Barents, that is shipped in by refrigerated truck,to our Nature Health food store, not far from us..and they rush it immediately to a freezer. They also donor sell if it is becomes outdated for healing..But when to old I will still find other uses for it.If it gets to smelly..I dump it. Very seldom have I had to do that. My first bottle came from a friend, that didn't know at the time, all there was about Flaxseed oil, so she had left it sit out on a table to long..when she brought it to me to use. 12 years ago when I had cancer..I only used it to rub around the cancer as it was healing, and later I learned it was very good to rub the entire body with it, for after 8 weeks in bed, a persons otters needs healing too. But I
learned from an Amish family that flaxseed was good for keeping away bed-sores.Especially when my elbows got so tender from having to push myself up in bed. Believe me it was welcomed medicine ( salve ) at that time.
MI Judy

I thought this list was for cancer and flax oil/cc? Am I missing something?
Bon
In a message dated 6/25/2002 1:42:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lorenzo1@... writes:
<<
Two names for two things that they do not understand.
Lorenzo
Schizo-Affective Disorder, 2 Nov 96, 6 Nov 96
... is used when an individual does not fit diagnostic standards for either
schizophrenia
or "affective" (mood) disorders such as depression and bipolar disorder (
...
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Schizo-affective Disorder
... More on the differences between Bipolar and Schizo-affective. The
Harvard
Mental Health Letter discusses Schizo-affective Disorder. ...
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Current Research and New Trends Affecting People with Bipolar ...
... Families with at least two living siblings who have Bipolar I or
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Two names for two things that they do not understand.
Lorenzo
Schizo-Affective Disorder, 2 Nov 96, 6 Nov 96
... is used when an individual does not fit diagnostic standards for either
schizophrenia
or "affective" (mood) disorders such as depression and bipolar disorder (
...
www.nami.org/helpline/schizoaffective.htm - 13k - Cached - Similar pages
Schizo-affective Disorder
... More on the differences between Bipolar and Schizo-affective. The
Harvard
Mental Health Letter discusses Schizo-affective Disorder. ...
www.psycom.net/depression.central.schizoaffective.html - 5k - Cached -
Similar pages
Current Research and New Trends Affecting People with Bipolar ...
... Families with at least two living siblings who have Bipolar I or
schizo-affective
disorder may be eligible. A payment will be given to each participant. ...
www.bpso.org/research.shtml - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
depressioNet.com.au - your comprehensive one-stop depression ...
... when someone presents with the symptoms of schizo affective disorder,
because of
the close relationship between; schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and schizo
...
www.depressionet.com.au/conditions/ schizoaffective.html - 18k - Cached -
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Lorenzo
Bipolar disorder and schizophrenia and two very different things......
mjh
In a message dated 6/25/02 12:26:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lorenzo1@... writes:

Note that the example here, Dr. "Arthur", who suffered from bipolar
disorder, told his mother that
he had gone off lithium
There is a slight possibility that although Dr. Arthur knew
everything--maybe he had not tried B vitamins to control his Schizophrenia!
Lorenzo

It is my opinion that the research into the paleo diet indicates a need for Omega 3 oils in the diet; Now American diets contain less and less Omega 3 every year so Flaxseed Oil supplementation come from a fundamental need for a better diet.

Another item missing from the "New" foods is trace minerals- Essiac Tea is made of natural herbs which are rich in these.

Lorenzo

Maybe the rumor that Doctors are not allowed to heal cancer patients except
with "approved methods" contributes to their personal tragedies.
Note that the example here, Dr. "Arthur", who suffered from bipolar
disorder, told his mother that
he had gone off lithium
There is a slight possibility that although Dr. Arthur knew
everything--maybe he had not tried B vitamins to control his Schizophrenia!
Lorenzo
See the whole article about the hidden tragedy of Doctors and suicide
............ at; http://www.medicalpost.com/
"Physicians are twice as likely as the general population to commit
suicide........
................
By Celia Milne
For Dr. Arthur Sommer-Rotenberg, who took his own life in 1992 at the age
of 36, being a doctor was part of the problem. "They have too much
knowledge," says Doris Sommer-Rotenberg, his mother, who has now helped
established the first North American Chair in Suicide Studies, at the
University of Toronto, in his name. On one of the last times mother and son
had dinner, Arthur, who suffered from bipolar disorder, told his mother that
he had gone off lithium.
As a physician, he knew what the chemical side-effects were, and he told
her he thought the drug would negatively affect his heart. "He had a way of
beating it," says Sommer-Rotenberg grimly. "But of course, he didn't."
Physicians succumb to suicide's dark tendrils at a higher rate than other
people. There are many reasons for this. For one, doctors are typically more
reluctant to surrender their care to others, a problem that becomes
magnified when physicians treating physicians are in turn less aggressive
with treatment.
Additionally, all over the country, rates of burnout, depression and
emotional exhaustion are high among doctors...........
The rates and reasons for physician suicide are extremely disturbing. Dr.
Merry Miller from the department of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at
East Tennessee State University in Johnson City, Tenn., recently lost four
physician friends to suicide, prompting her to write "The Painful Truth:
Physicians are not invincible." The piece, in which she explores how and why
doctors are vulnerable, was published last October in the Southern Medical
Journal. Dr. Merry uses figures from the literature to demonstrate that
doctors are more than twice as likely as the general population to kill
themselves (between 28 and 40 per 100,000, versus 12.3 per 100,000). Suicide
rates for women physicians are approximately four times that of women in the
general population. "Physicians are encouraged to disregard themselves and
deny their own needs," she writes." "
Unquote.

While you are waiting to hear from Cliff, here's a google on Essiac. The original is available from Resperin Corp in Canada. I make my own now for about 10 years.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=essiac&btnG=Google+Search
mjh
In a message dated 6/24/02 2:56:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bgj1110@... writes:

Cliff,
Could you give more information on Essiac tea? Also, where do you purchase beet C?
Thanks for all the information.
Barbara

Recent Significant Developments as of February 27, 1999
Following are some things which may be of significance and which I would
like to relate to people who seek information. They are things which are an
encouragement to me , and I trust to others as well. At the same time, I
am not giving medical advice. What I am doing is giving information
concerning things that have happened and it is up to each Individual to do
with it what he or she wishes.
Most people do not talk to doctors about this as it seems silly, but it
isn't and it is a thrill to see people getting well that as far as doctor's
expectations are concerned, should be dying.
This document contains things that I want to tell everybody, and it just
occurred to me that I can do it this way and simply send it as an
attachment. I am fairly new at Email and am feeling my way and learning as
I go along. My goal is to get out the greatest possible amount of
meaningful information in the least possible time.
A year ago last October a lady who is a good friend of ours had a mammogram
and it was suspicious. She immediately began using flaxseed at three
tablespoons a day. A biopsy was set up for a week later and it was
malignant. She underwent a lot of tests and when it was determined that the
cancer had not spread a mastectomy was recommended. She had to follow the
recommendations or tenure would not pay the $3000.00 for the tests. They
waited about six weeks trying to get a doctor to do reconstructive surgery
at the same time but couldn't arrange it.. Finally, it was felt that she
should have the procedure before any spread occurred. The operation was
performed and the removed tissue sent to the lab for analysis.
There were no cancer cells detectable. She said the only good thing about
it was that she had told the doctor what she was doing and he suddenly got
very interested because his wife had had a double mastectomy and was not
doing well.
At the time, I did not know who the doctor was, but I do know now and all I
have heard is that his wife is doing well..
On the web page and the tapes the story is related concerning Maxine. At
the end of May, 1992 she was in the late stages. She was still able to
dress and get meals but then had to lie down. She began using the oil, half
heartedly at first, and didn't get worse. Then she used it more heavily and
before long an MRI showed all clear. A year later she had to change doctors
as the first one moved and the new doctor went over the records and told her
that this was a miracle; there was no way she should still be alive.
About a week after Christmas, 1998, she called me and said that she had had
a check-up a week before Christmas and all was well. Then the doctor told
her he had just found out that HE had cancer. Now, Maxine told me, I
decided to tell him from the very beginning what I had been doing and what
had happened. Then she told me that she said to him, "I'm no doctor, but
you have nothing to lose, and you had better get with it!" He said, "I'm
going to." He knew her history and that she had been doing no standard
treatment and, when his life was on the line, feelings and attitudes
changed.
A few months ago a young woman brought her father in law for a visit. He
had been found to have colon cancer and the tumors had practically filled
the colon before it was realized. The doctors decided to try a new approach
and insert a tube to hold the tumors out of the way and allow normal
functions while an experimental chemo was use in an attempt to shrink the
tumors. They came on a Saturday and the procedure was scheduled for Monday.
Not wishing to die for lack of trying all possibilities this man started
using flax oil immediately at four tablespoons a day.
He was back in a few weeks for more oil, some for himself and some for some
folks he knew, and was happy. He said the tube was uncomfortable. He said
the tumors were shrinking rapidly and one day he had a big BM and the tube
was not there any more. He has been back several times since then. One
problem is that he is not telling the doctors what he is doing. If he
recovers, as it seems is happening, it will be an interesting result for the
new chemo, or will it?
This morning, March 26, 1999, there is a new development that I feel we
should add to this document. On Saturday January 23 I went to a prostate
cancer support group meeting for the first time. It was a bad morning to
drive and a gentleman came for the first, and perhaps only, time. He took a
cancer tape with him. Just after that his wife was found to have a rare,
fast growing tumor that was developing in the aftermath of a mastectomy.
The prognosis was very grim and the doctor gave her little hope. It was
determined that chemo would be given in an effort to slow down the cancer
but the only hope for survival would probably have to be stem cell
transplants, which in itself is a dangerous procedure. She was very
concerned and frightened concerning the future. Having become aware of the
values of flaxseed oil she began using it at six tablespoons a day and had
gotten a rebounder and was using that at first, but had to abandon that
because it aggravated something in connection with the chemo, as I
understand. She told the doctor that she was using flaxseed oil. His only
comment was that she should go ahead; that it couldn't hurt.
After the third treatment, the tumor has disappeared. The doctor told her
that he could guarantee that the cancer would return unless she went with
further treatment. They are going to do further treatments with a drug that
is supposed to strengthen the immune system.
She is sure that the flaxseed oil has played the major role in the situation
but that won't be recognized. However the only thing that matters is that
the crisis appears to be over, the stem cell procedure won't need to be
used, she is feeling very good abut it but hardly daring to believe yet that
she is facing a normal future. She will be continuing the use of flaxseed
oil and depending on a strong immune system to prevent any recurrence. She
is very much aware that the meeting that day was more than coincidence. The
weather was terrible, her husband almost turned back twice and Mary Anna was
very much opposed to my going. She is aware that The Lord was watching over
her and we believe that also.
Three months ago when we were in my doctor's office there was a couple in
the waiting room to whom we spoke briefly. That night the lady called us.
He husband was a retired college professor. His left lung had 85% cancer
involvement. It had been decided to remove the lung at the Thompson
Survival Center in Knoxville, but when the incision was made and the chest
opened it was found that the cancer had spread and it was decided to close
and do what they could with radiation and chemo.
The radiation regimen had just been completed but the man and his wife had
decided not to go through the misery of chemo and just live out what time
there was left and let it go at that. The doctor did not disagree with that
decision. The reason the lady called was to tell me that the doctor had
suggested that they come to Rutledge and get flaxseed oil and start using it
at four to eight tablespoons a day.
Yesterday the doctor said that she had seen him a week ago. The cancer was
still there but there was no change and he was holding his own.
Today, August 1, 1999, the following account appeared in a personal web
site newsletter put out in Texas:
We received some wonderful news this week. The niece of close friends of my
parents was diagnosed several months ago with widespread cancer. Basically,
this young 32 year old woman, the mother of three children, was told there
was nothing that the doctors could do for her and she was sent home for
whatever time she had left.
My parents told their friends about the use of Flaxseed Oil and cottage
cheese and they discussed it with their niece.
She had lost all her appetite and was losing weight as well as having no
energy at all. Shortly her appetite came back, her energy level was almost
back to normal and she was eating regularly again.
It has been about three months since this young woman started using flax
oil. At her last doctor's visit all the tumors seem to have disappeared and
everyone is calling it a miracle. I feel certain in this case that I can
name the miracle "The Lord and Flax Oil". This has really stirred up
everyone in San Antonio.
On Wednesday October 13, a couple was visiting in our living room. A few
months back he was also here talking about flaxseed oil. At that time he
told us he had been given about two weeks more to live. He had Leukemia.
He had been treated with chemo, but as I understand it that had been given
up. He felt he had nothing to lose by using flaxseed oil. He is using four
tablespoons per day. As of Wednesday he is again a healthy, robust man with
all tests normal.
We are PRAISING THE LORD!! Cliff & Mary Anna Beckwith

Hi, Carol and Lorenzo,
Kal Yeast Flakes are a good replacement for the bitter powder. Mixed
in tomato juice, it's pretty good. For me, it has always felt like a
healing agent "going down." I guess it's because it has all those amino
acids in it.
You all gave me the idea of taking it again, so I looked in the bottom
of the fridge and, lo and behold, there was a can sitting there. (I
started putting it in the fridge when there were constantly weevils in
the flakes. Those critters don't really appeal to me.) It calms me and
since I'm eating so badly (hardly eating at all) right now, that sounds
like the perfect food for me. Thank you for reminding me.
Time to fix my husband his 3rd FO/CC of the day.
operacat

Hi Lorenzo & all,

I did not include any attachments in my last e-mail, but I see that there are some in a c.c. I sent to myself. In fact, I never include attachments in my e-mails nor do I open any attachments, from friends or unknowns alike. I do not know where the attachments to my Papaya message have come from. Sorry if this has caused any inconvenience to anyone, but it seems beyond my control. It could be an internal technical manouevre because I have just bought a new CPU and am just using it for the first week. Again, thanks for understanding, Mike Cinelli

=================================================================================

........One the the best ways to obtain all your
enzymes is through nature, no needs to buy tablets,
capsules or the like...
Every day I eat the seeds of Papaya ( looks and feels
like caviar) quite easy to eat their are soft and mild
tasting...and every other day I drink fresh pinapple
juice....Do some research on this subject of
papaya/pinapple for enzymes......
all the best
Michael
.theiSubject: Digestive Enzymes
Enzymes
In recent days I have become aware of the possible
need for the use of
supplemental enzymes, particularly in older people.
When one is thirty, the pancreas makes all the enzymes
needed for
complete
digestion and assimilation of nutrients, but with
advancing age from
that
point on I understand that there is a continuous drop
in the ability of
the
pancreas to manufacture these enzymes
.
There are no enzymes in cooked foods as heating above
118 degrees
Fahrenheit
destroys enzymes. Eating raw fruits and vegetables
provides some
enzymes,
but not usually enough. This might be a clue as to
some of the value
from
juicing raw vegetables.
About five years ago I knew of a man about four years
older than I who
had
prostate cancer with a PSA of 73 in September. He ate
nothing but
fresh
fruits and vegetables and flaxseed oil and cottage
cheese and by
December
the PSA had dropped to 13. He and his wife were
thrilled. He had no
other
treatment. I am wondering if a lot of the improvement
did not come
because
of the extra enzymes he was getting from the fresh
fruits and
vegetables and
their enhancement of the effect of the Omega 3. This
morning I read an
article taken from a Life Extension Magazine that
provided evidence
that
that was what happened.
Heartburn, Acid reflex, gas, diarrhea, and
constipation can result from
the
body's increasing inability to digest food.
Maldigestion can
contribute to
recurrent infections, skin problems, hormonal
disturbances, arthritis,
allergies, weight loss, joint and back pain, heart
disease, and even
cancer.
There have been enzymes supplements of animal origin,
but now
researchers
have made exciting new discoveries about the use of
plant-based enzymes
to
treat such diseases as cancer, rheumatoid arthritis,
celiac disease,
food
allergy and cardiovascular disease.
Our bodies need Amylase to break carbohydrates down
into simple
glucose,
lipase to dissolve fats into fatty acids, and protease
to reduce large
protein molecules to amino acids. Enzymes made from a
fungus, A.
oryzae,
have been found to be very effective in digesting
lactose. An
excellent
product called Assimilate has these enzymes and has
been found in a
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dramatically increase
absorption
of many nutrients [including selenium, zinc, and
essential fatty acids]
by
up to 70%.
If the body is short of enzymes for digestion, white
blood cells are
brought
into play as they do have enzymes and they will attack
the food
patricles to
break them down. While they are thus engaged they
cannot be doing the
jobs
they should be doing fighting diseases and
abnormalities such as
cancer.
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An excellent enzyme product that has a formula
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Another excellent source of enzymes is Enzyme
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yes, many people use garlic and onions for the sulpher. I do want to mention
though, cruciferous veggies are so good for you "unless" you are hypothyroid.
You can see this by doing a google search www.google.com and type in
thyroid+cabbage
BonnieB
In a message dated 6/23/2002 5:34:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
GRMassageTher@... writes:
<<
* Cruciferous vegetables contain sulforaphane, as well as other
phytochemicals such as dithiolthiones. These compounds may trigger enzymes
that help block damage to cell DNA. The cruciferous vegetables include
broccoli, cauliflower, kale, brussel sprouts and cabbage.

After reading your ups and downs with your psa reading, you really have had
big rises in between. I guess you are the experimenting pig, I bought some
wheat grass, real grass and have been chewing it like a cow for the juice,
moo...moo, heard it was good for cancer. What we all do to help our cancer!!
Take care. Am going to an alternative healer meeting in 20 minutes. Better
go now.,
Cynthia

Here's some info I got from a cancer institute. Most of the things were not
worth repeating, but I thought these points interesting.
* Cruciferous vegetables contain sulforaphane, as well as other
phytochemicals such as dithiolthiones. These compounds may trigger enzymes
that help block damage to cell DNA. The cruciferous vegetables include
broccoli, cauliflower, kale, brussel sprouts and cabbage.
* Garlic and onions have sulfur compounds (allyl sulfides), which trigger
enzymes that may help remove carcinogens from the body.
I know that Dr. Budwig recommends garlic and onions. I can't remember about
cruciferous vegetables specifically. Again, the sulfur compounds come to the
fore in cancer prevention. Isn't it interesting that they can see this much,
but can't decide to see that flax oil and sulfur compounds might just work
synergistically?
Clyde

Hello Dr. Mittelman:

Excellent post on coke, I have resend it to my friends and family who like coke very much.

Gaby.

P. S. Thank you for my Holisctic Dental Digest PLUS.

jerome mittelman <jmittelman@...

You'll like this:
Jerry Mittelman
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Jack,

Ganz gut, unt Dankeshoen, Ich bin ein Wiesbadener 1946 bis 48. nun habe Ich leide alles vergessen! Aber das geshrift Sie habe geshrieben es .............

Thanks Jack,

My posts allude to just bits of info from various places------together they add up as you report.

Please keep teaching us!

Lorenzo

Megazyme Forte is superior to Wobenzyme and much less money. get on the
Cantron list - no mlm Harold

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LONA and anyone else interested..if not DELETE..

On the EllagiMax that Judy and I take, and that some of you are asking about we will both be talking in this letter, in hopes it will explain why we decided to get on this capsule.
You know there was a time when I had no work. We had no money to go over-board on, not one dime to waste in the pocket.

We told people we needed prayer, becaue our needs were many at the time. We laid everything on the alter.And God was the only person we knew that had the answers for Judy's health problems. And I needed more strength to take better care of her.
At this time ( I Judy ) was so sick, and in a daily sitting in a wheelchair, Not even able to do my own housework. I was in such agonizing pains, all through my bodyl.And so depressed I begged God to let me die. I couldn't uncersatnd why he hadn't taken my life when I was those 8 weks in bed with cancer. He had healed me of that, but here I was still suffering beyond my means to get any help..other than an pain-pill bottle of drugs a doctor prescribed that never worked. I wasn't getting any sleep and I needed rest badly.
Mel was getting wore out and his health run down for having to miss work to help me everyday. And being I had nobody at home during the day to assist me,
Mel had to stop work many times during the week to be home with me. I finally got sick and tired of being sick and tired. And Mel got tired, of being tired of taking cake of me. And there was nothing we could do about it. So we thought.
Doctors tried many things..I was getting so depressed. Especially after a car accident in 1993. When we was rammed from behind and h=it nearly killed me, and my neck was in constant pains, now added to what I already was enduring. Then I really went down hill, faster than before. After then we lost our youngest son, Aulston, in 1994. ( I will not repeat that story here ),but it nearly put me in the grave along side of him) I was not aable to handle the pressure any more..and I cared less from trying to.
One day Mel got a phone call to go do a emergency plumbing job, and we knew he must go and do this job and because it would put a few extra dollars toward, the EllagiMax, that I so needed. And we had been studying about. Thanks to a man that had been on the Flaxseed oil 1-list and the Cancer Cure list at that time with me. And later he had us to listen to tapes, and a telephone testimony.
Then later we got to reading about other supplements that could do other good things for us both. ( long story )..but I thank Debbie, a gal on
Natural Well Being and other list I was sharing. And she came to our rescue with Immunical to feed the cells back to normal.( I won't get into full details here) but it fed our cells back to a normal living cell, and it worked very fast. It was rebuilding us into shape to where we could both get the strength to have the extra engery we needed.

We also begin to change our way of eating habits.
Getting rid of the toxins, parasites, etc..and learning to exercise right. walking and doing exercises in the privacy of our own home. We was using Mel's large therapy rubberbands attatched to the doors.

Mel and I soon found that drinking more water during the day, was a big booster toward our healing. And I was limiting my 40 cups of coffee, now down to one cup and sometimes none at all. And taking away sugar, as much as possible from our foods we really could get along without them in the first place. I begin to get a brand new body, over a period of a few months. And Mel begin to feel more engery too.
Still today we are learning more about health, and new things that other people share with their own testimonies with us, that of their own healing, that come to us all over the computer board.

Thankful we are that we started the new group, to
help us all to a better health.

Hi Clyde,
Thanks for your prompt answer. If you believe that no attack was meant at
any point, then my apologies to you and let`s keep going on postive/
informative reporting of Dr. Budwig. [ And how our interpretations and
opinions may help people.] There is so much to be learned from her only two
books translated into English, that all our energy is needed just for that!
( and our expeiments, eh?) I think you will be in agreement with this .. A
cheery day to all and a lot of health to you, your family and all list
members, Thanks and best, Mike Cinelli
=================

Cliff and all,
Yes, after 40, we need enzymes for better digestion.
There's more:
IMPORTANT -- We should take enzymes on an empty stomach (an hour before
or 2 hrs. after eating). They should be enterically coated to protect them
from stomach acids and get them into the intestines. I use Wobenzyme N-
has a great reputation among holistic physicians.
Wobenzyme N attacks cancer in several ways.
First, it attacks the coating on tumor cells which disguise them from
recognition by the immune system to that the antigens are exposed. Second,
it stimulates various components of the immune system such as Natural Killer
cells, T-cells and Tumor Necrosis factor. Third, it removes the "sticky"
coating on cancer cells that allow them to adhere to other parts of the
body, in effect, lessening the chances of metastases. Lastly, it can enter
cancer cells during their reproductive phase when they are not yet formed
and destroy them. Vitamin A increases this effect. In Germany, it is
injected directly into tumors causing them to dissolve.
It is thought that a primary purpose of pancreatic enzymes is to police
the body looking for incipient cancer cells and then destroying them. It is
also thought that a high protein diet consumes most enzymes leaving little
left over for anticancer activity.
The fact is that cancer cells are constantly being formed, and an
effective immune system kills them off. Enzymes should certainly be of
benefit in helping to get to homeostasis.
Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM
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Hi,
More information on Joseph Weißenberg, the man who performed ''miracle
healings"
with flaxseed oil and quark at the time of our grandmothers.
He was born in 1855 as son of poor land laborers in Selecian? (now Poland).
He spend his childhood with a shepherd from whom he probably acquired his later
abilities in the Natural Healing Arts. As quark played a big roll in the
healing practice.
Joseph Weißenberg wurde am 24. 8. 1855 in Fehebeutel (Schlesien) als Sohn
einer armen Landarbeiterfamilie geboren. Seine Kindheit verbrachte er bei
einem Schäfer, von dem er wahrscheinlich auch seine späteren Fähigkeiten in
der Naturheilkunde erwarb. So spielte in der Heiltätigkeit Quark eine große
Rolle.
http://www.religio.de/sekten/johkirch.html#2
wurde als Waise von einem heilkundigen
Schäfer erzogen
was raised as an orphan by a healer
shepherd.
Now that I have read this I'm more inclined to side with Lorenzo that the
flaxseed oil
quark mix is an age old remedy from the middle and east European area that
Weißenberg
learned from his stepfather the shepherd.
When Dr. Budwig was in her twenties she must have heard of Joseph Weißenberg
who was very big in Germany. He founded a church in 1926 that had 100,000
followers.
For the ones that understand German on the list it is fascinating reading:
The church he founded: http://www.johannische-kirche.de/
Biography: http://www.bautz.de/bbkl/w/weissenberg.shtml
The
community: http://www.johannische-betriebe.de/kirche/JK14110.htm
The Healing Institution: http://www.johannische-betriebe.de/kirche/JK14140.htm
http://www.afg-teltow.de/nntl/Kommunen/K00034.htm
The German double S sign can be typed by holding down the Alt key and than
typing
the number 225 on the tabulator keypad at the right of your keyboard.
like so: ß Weißenberg.
Jack

there is a permenant allergy removal now.... NAET.
i used it on my dog... yes - it works
BonnieB
In a message dated 6/22/2002 3:53:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mrjau@... writes:
<<
Barleans Flaxseed oil for us is cheaper at 1 pint $12.95, if we pick it up
in Berlin,Ohio a few
miles from us. About 18 miles away.
And Mel said he will probably pick it up there instead, of going to Wooster
at $13.95.
Now we also know in Berlin, that they keep it in the= refrigerater. And it
comes on a refrigerated truck..That is good. . He is going right over to
Berlin today for other things anyway.And getting some for other people.
And remember Flaxseed oil must be kept in the refrigerator, not out in a
room temperature.Some freeze and only take what is needed each day or two. (
what you dont take refrigerate )
I drink alot of water and other beverage and once my body got use to that..I
never had to run to the bathroom as often.
And with the red ellagiMax, ( 100 % 500mg..Red Raspberries Seeds..I've been
very regulated on bowles, now three years. I know it helps to prevent other
diseases as well, and especially helps me to fight getting cancer back into
my body. My Doctor said it would be good if people had bowel movement a
little after every meal to keep the colan in working order. Nobody should go
days without one good movement. And we should drink plenty of good liquid a
day, like juice, and water, and some tea is good for us. But nothing can
beat water, for the pure-flusing out the inners of toxins.
I just got word that a lady is very alergic to olive oil.And she dare not
even get it on her skin.So she can not eat it either. Have anyone of you had
this problem with Olive oil before?
Love Miz Judy

Hi,
Could you tell me where you get this product?
Lona
: And with the red ellagiMax, ( 100 % 500mg..Red Raspberries Seeds..I've
been
: very regulated on bowels, now three years
Been exposed to radiation? Consequences on my health links.
http://tahomagirl.com

Barleans Flaxseed oil for us is cheaper at 1 pint $12.95, if we pick it up
in Berlin,Ohio a few
miles from us. About 18 miles away.
And Mel said he will probably pick it up there instead, of going to Wooster
at $13.95.
Now we also know in Berlin, that they keep it in the= refrigerater. And it
comes on a refrigerated truck..That is good. . He is going right over to
Berlin today for other things anyway.And getting some for other people.
And remember Flaxseed oil must be kept in the refrigerator, not out in a
room temperature.Some freeze and only take what is needed each day or two. (
what you dont take refrigerate )
I drink alot of water and other beverage and once my body got use to that..I
never had to run to the bathroom as often.
And with the red ellagiMax, ( 100 % 500mg..Red Raspberries Seeds..I've been
very regulated on bowles, now three years. I know it helps to prevent other
diseases as well, and especially helps me to fight getting cancer back into
my body. My Doctor said it would be good if people had bowel movement a
little after every meal to keep the colan in working order. Nobody should go
days without one good movement. And we should drink plenty of good liquid a
day, like juice, and water, and some tea is good for us. But nothing can
beat water, for the pure-flusing out the inners of toxins.
I just got word that a lady is very alergic to olive oil.And she dare not
even get it on her skin.So she can not eat it either. Have anyone of you had
this problem with Olive oil before?
Love Miz Judy

Cliff is you are not aquainted with Dr John Beard PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND. IT IS THE BASIS OF kELLY, GERSON AND MANY OTHER CANCER CURES. HAROLD

Dr John Beard and the The Unitarian Trophoblastic Theory by Dr. Duffy:

Here is the truth about cancer and the truth about fact #1. Dr John Beard of Scotland discovered the cause of all cancers and published a paper on The Unitarian Trophoblastic Theory of cancer in 1902. Cancer, while having multifactorial stimuli that will cause the process of the initial replication of the undifferentiated cell, has in fact, one root cause - a deficiency of pancreatic enzymes. Everything else associated, "goes along for the ride" so to speak.

John Beard stated, and later proved clinically, that cancer was the result of failure of the Pancreas to produce proper amounts of pancreatic enzymes. He stated that cells left over from embryonic development of the fetus are scattered throughout our bodies and later in life are occasionally stimulated to begin reproducing. [by some local stimulant such as environmental poison, drug, food, injury etc.] It is the job of pancreatic enzymes to digest these cells the moment they begin to multiply.

In the absence or deficiency of pancreatic enzymes, these primitive cells begin to multiply and the result is cancer, the rapid, uncontrolled growth of undifferentiated cells.

As a result of Beard's announcement, which was promptly rejected by his peers, there soon [by 1911] were forty clinics in London, England curing cancer using crude pancreatic enzymes -however Madam Curie came along and convinced people that Xray was the way to go because it was so "safe" and "effective" and the pancreatic cancer cure was quickly forgotten for several decades.

In the absence or deficiency of Pancreatic enzymes, Sympathetic dominant patients will end up with solid tumors in brain, pancreas, stomach, liver etc., Parasympathetic dominants will end up with the "soft" blood related cancers. The Sympathetic dominants need a more vegetarian based diet, the Parasympathetics need a more meat based/animal protein diet.

The trophoblast cells of pregnancy are typical cancer cells that eat into the uterine lining to prepare the nest. These cells are eventually turned off when the fetal pancreas turns on, otherwise the cancer of pregnancy ensues and kills the mother and baby very quickly. This was the key to Beard's discovery of the link between cancer and pancreatic insufficiency - the fact that in every specie he investigated, it was the turn on of the pancreas that coincided with the end of growth of the trophoblast cells of pregnancy. Trophoblast cells of pregnancy are exactly like cancer cells. Based upon his theory an early cure of a sarcoma was effected by one of his MD friends who injected the pancreatic enzymes - they believed, [incorrectly] that the enzymes needed to be injected because digestion would inactivate them. This is not true, pancreatic enzymes survive digestion and go on to digest cancer cells in the body, [fortunately for us].

Another Beard [Howard] came along and devised the HcG "Anthrone test" to measure female

hormone in the urine. The test is based upon the fact that trophoblast cells of pregnancy, like all cancer cells, excrete HcG. Back in the early seventies these tests were performed on males and females. If you showed the hormone in the urine you were considered to be either a pregnant female or a male or female with cancer.

Howard Beard jokingly stated at the Cancer Control Society seminar back in the seventies that

he had some tumors in his bowel and when they got too big he would stop eating donuts and go back on his pancreatic enzymes to shrink the tumors back down. Back then Laetrile, vitamin B17, was being directly injected into the veins of cancer patients as part of the cure but the nutritional cure rate was only about one third - due to the mistaken idea that everyone needed a vegetarian diet and needed to avoid animal protein.

William Donald Kelley, a dentist from Grapevine, Texas, cured himself of pancreatic cancer in the sixties and went on to develop the present nutritionally based, do-it-yourself home cure for cancer which is probably over ninety per cent effective in patients who have not been overly destroyed by chemotherapy and orthodox treatments.

Noone need die of cancer. However, it is a full time job to cure yourself of cancer. The cause and cure are known and at hand. It has been developed by Kelley over the last thirty years. Instructions to follow are on my website. www.duffyslaw.com

While I am at it here this morning let me add one more thing. The literature abounds with

nonsense about viruses and how they "cause" all sorts of disease processes and do all sorts of strange and destructive things. Get this point - no virus has life, the minimum requirement of which is metabolism and reproduction which requires a cell wall or at the very least, a membrane. For life to exist there must be the ability to take in energy, metabolize it, and then store the energy in a form of information that will allow reproduction of the thing that is "DOING" the metabolizing and reproducing. Therefore, since no virus has the power of metabolism and reproduction, no virus can "DO" anything. The virus is "DONE TO" by sick cells. A sick cell will produce a "bad" virus. A sick cell might even allow a virus entry into its domain. The cell will then "DO" all the "DOING" that is "DONE" - because the virus - not having any life, cannot "do" anything - a lot of otherwise intelligent men have been led down the path by all this junk science being generated in labs around
the country, most of it at taxpayers expense. What we need to do as quickly as possible is, get these people off the dole and get their hands out of the public till. We need to start denying tax money to pursue these stupid projects - and we need to get big government OUT OF THE MEDICAL BUSINESS!!!

Keep in mind that modern medicine has not cured a single degenerative disease. NOT ONE!!! every degenerative disease that has ever been cured has been cured by an essential food factor - not a prescription drug - and every single degenerative disease is caused by either an environmental poison, most of which are introduced into our environment by medical quacks and quack scientists or by malnutrition.

Not one single degenerative disease ever suffered by a human was due to a deficiency in a prescription drug.

William Donald Kelley describes the approach in his momentous book with the extremely humble and deceiving title of "One Answer To Cancer", indeed - it is the ONLY answer to cancer in my studied [over fifty years] opinion.

Dr Daniel H Duffy Sr

Geneva, Ohio

REFERENCES

1. Beard, J: "The Action of Trypsin..." Br Med J 4, 140-41, 1906.
2. Beard, J: "The Enzyme Treatment of Cancer" London: Chatto and Windus, 1911.
3. Cutfield, A: "Trypsin Treatment in Malignant Disease" Br Med J 5, 525, 1907.
4. Wiggin, FH: "Case of Multiple Fibrosarcoma Of The Tongue, With Remarks on the Use of Trypsin and Amylopsin in the Treatment of Malignant Disease" JAMA 47, 2003-08. 1906.
5. Gotze, H, Rotham SS: Enterohepatic Circulation of Digestive Enzymes As A Conservative Mechanism" Nature 257 (5527).
6. Shively, FL: "Multiple Proteolytic Enzyme Therapy Of Cancer." Dayton, Johnson-Watson, 1969.
7. Little, WL: "A Case Of Malignant Tumor, WIth Treatment." JAMA 50, 1724, 1908.
8. Kelley, WD: "One Answer To Cancer" latest update - 33,000 cancer cases over three decades. New Century Promotions 3711 Altal Loma Drive Bonita, CA 91902 800-768-8484 or 619-479-3829.
9. Isaacs JP, Lamb J: "Complementarity In Biology, The Quantization Of Molecular Motion" 1969 The John Hopkins Press, Baltimore.

Mr. Beckwith, you might also be interested to know, flax is the only thing
that I COULD FIND to completly stop my severe heart palpitations.I,at one
point last year,
lost track during the day,how many times it was happening.I WAS having up to
60 or more very strong flutters, morning , noon and night.Never did my
Dr.find out why or tell me how to control them. I stumbled upon flaxseed by
accident and gradually the palpitations went away but I must take it every
single day otherwise they come back,
I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN AND FLAX IS THE ONLY THING THAT WORKS.
Please pass on this info to others if you ever see the need .thank you.

Hi Clyde,
Good to see you surface again, for whatever reason. In this case it`s seems
to be to continue your attack, but since I`ve been attacked by the best,
another one or two won`t hurt, eh?
1. It`s also good to see you state that you have never disagreed with D.
Budwig`s protocol. That`s a step in the right direction to good health.
2. Your quote confuses me: ...." I don't disagree with Dr. Budwig on
digestion. I disagree with "you" [ meaning me] on
digestion. I don't find that Dr. Budgwig speaks directly to digestion.
Proteins are broken down in the digestive system into amino acids and then
rebuilt into specific proteins that our body uses. It is those proteins in
our body that attach to EFAs that Dr. Budwig refers to. " Clyde, this
staement is truly confusing.....Please explain further, if you have the
time...Thanks.
3. You also state a rather pessimistic opinion , reference the possible
translation of Dr. Budwig`s other nine books being translated from German
into English Your quote:: " I have investigated. It is doubtful that they
will ever be translated into English....." What do you mean that ..."I
have investigated"? Who, what, where,etc., did you "investigate." ? I
believe that money will be found to translate all of her books because she
is one of the premier healers of our times, and her knowledge may be
extremely vital to a lot of people`s well being."
4. Re: your stating that Dr. Budwig`s two books are ...." anecdotal & lack
of supporting evidence", etc... Clyde, obviously one of us is missing the
point. Dr. Budwig`s book " Flax Oil As A True Aid..."etc., is for the
"layman." The translation states that it is a series of three different
lectures given for "lay people" in Europe. If you have missed that obvious
point, then perhaps you have missed other more complicated points in the
book, and what you say is grossly unfair to people who read your posts
because they may be misled by your statements. How can anyone equate
"lectures for laymen " with 'scientific evidence"? If it`s an oversight on
your part, I will accept that ....because we all make mistakes. Wasn`t it
Benjamin Franlin who said, "Haste Makes Waste?"....
The book 'Flaxseed Oil As A True Aid For Arthritis, Heart Infarction,
Cancer, and Other Diseases" is by far the best, simple explanation I have
ever read in a concise, informative and easy to understand language about
the real causes and an effective remedial approach to the problems
mentioned. If you want more "scientific" proof, jump on a plane and go see
her, or fax her, or phone her. She does speak English. I have read ( or
mis-read) your statements as an attack on her , not as an innocent
observation. "Lay is lay", and 'Scientific" is scientific. It`s the
"Scientific what have you " out there that has put all of us in a health
mess. People want plain facts put into plain language so they can get plain
healthy again.....
5. Before someone can seek his/her own cure, he/she must understand the
problem,. Dr. Budwig has done that, most allopathic doctors don`t. You draw
your own conclusions. I am happy for a person as wise and clear thinking as
Dr. Budwig, and her first two books open our eyes and offer hope. If you
want "scientific evidence" , then find out for yorself what she wrote in
German and report to the group. Everyone will be appreciative. No one,
except you, say her books are "scientific" when all know she has given us
the tip of the ice berg to survive, If you are a doctor, a scientist or
whatever, then you will be adamant on the "scientific bit". It is a non-
issue for me because I believe in self-healing by good nutrition, wise
choices, and an absolute minimum of assistance from "M.D.`s or the
"allopathic scientific world". If you find this strange, then I am perplexed
again because you say you want to try things on your own body, "anecdotal"
etc., .That`s good .because most of the people on the list have
been..."fooled" by the allopathic "Party Line" and want to return to good
health by any natural "anecdotal" means....available. Dr. Budwig`s peotocol
does the trick if everthing she says is followed.....
6. I don`t quite understand your point [ (re: FO/CC) that allopathic people
look for patenable remedies ( financial gain). No one, who is informed,
denies this today and more and more people are getting informed. I just
don`t like all the misinformation, and the "straight jacket" put on people
in their choice of healing methods. Do you?
Anyway, Clyde, thanks for your comments, although some are not accurate in
their portrayal, but you are entitled to your opinions. I apologize for my
directness, but unfortunately, this is a very, very busy time for me and I
cannot answer as completely as I would want because of the time factor. I
always welcome your comments, but....I do not always agree....
To your credit, I have seen you answer some other posts with good comments.
Keep it up, and to you, your family, and all list members, the best of
health and good luck, Mike Cinelli
P.S. I will be away all next week....so I can`t answer anything posted to me
until after that time. Thanks and best again, Mike Cinelli
============================================================================
========

COKE: I was warned many years ago from a doctor in Lodi,Ohio,Never to give
the children Coke-beverages: it will destroy their fragil body with the
acid-burning, from the throat down into the intestines and the bowel track
and urinary. That phosphoric acid takes out the needed calcium from their
little delicate bones: And this also does the same to the adult body.
What a bout Pepsi? I'd be as leery about it too..Any soda-pop or fruits with
acid I'd stay away from. As for myself I can not drink Grapefruit drinks. I
get a stomach ache every time. And I dare not drink Orange juice for
breakfast until I know I have coated my stomach with some food, or some oil
first. Then if I don't put a lttle more water with it..It will also burn all
the way out. This is why I drink a lot of water after I drink any kind of
juice.
Love Miz Judy

I have a question about the things said about Bruce Fife.
Has anyone verified that the person who wrote the books on baloon sculpture,
etc. the same person who is writing about coconut oil? I don't agree with the
presentation on flax made by Dr. Bruce Fife, but I wonder if this is the same
person and the one who has published the other books. Believe it or not, it
is possible for two people to have the same name. As rare as my name is, both
first and last, I have discovered others with the same first and last name.
Clyde

You'll like this:

Cliff
This is really interesting. Just gotta mention that I've been taking digestive enzymes along with all my supplements for a few months to try to get 'more bang for the buck".
Also, a few weeks ago, I got sloppy in taking my yoghurt and flaxoil in that I couldn't keep up with production while my son elder dog were eating it almost faster than I could make it. What I noticed about a week without was that all of a sudden I experienced significant bloating after eating almost anythings, something I had never experienced before.
So anyway for me, there is something in the yoghurt/flax combo that helps my digestive system in unexpected and appreciated ways.
mjh
In a message dated 6/21/02 11:47:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, spinner@... writes:

Enzymes
In recent days I have become aware of the possible need for the use of
supplemental enzymes, particularly in older people.
When one is thirty, the pancreas makes all the enzymes needed for complete
digestion and assimilation of nutrients, but with advancing age from that
point on I understand that there is a continuous drop in the ability of the
pancreas to manufacture these enzymes
.
There are no enzymes in cooked foods as heating above 118 degrees Fahrenheit
destroys enzymes. Eating raw fruits and vegetables provides some enzymes,
but not usually enough. This might be a clue as to some of the value from
juicing raw vegetables.
About five years ago I knew of a man about four years older than I who had
prostate cancer with a PSA of 73 in September. He ate nothing but fresh
fruits and vegetables and flaxseed oil and cottage cheese and by December
the PSA had dropped to 13. He and his wife were thrilled. He had no other
treatment. I am wondering if a lot of the improvement did not come because
of the extra enzymes he was getting from the fresh fruits and vegetables and
their enhancement of the effect of the Omega 3. This morning I read an
article taken from a Life Extension Magazine that provided evidence that
that was what happened.
Heartburn, Acid reflex, gas, diarrhea, and constipation can result from the
body's increasing inability to digest food. Maldigestion can contribute to
recurrent infections, skin problems, hormonal disturbances, arthritis,
allergies, weight loss, joint and back pain, heart disease, and even cancer.
There have been enzymes supplements of animal origin, but now researchers
have made exciting new discoveries about the use of plant-based enzymes to
treat such diseases as cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, celiac disease, food
allergy and cardiovascular disease.
Our bodies need Amylase to break carbohydrates down into simple glucose,
lipase to dissolve fats into fatty acids, and protease to reduce large
protein molecules to amino acids. Enzymes made from a fungus, A. oryzae,
have been found to be very effective in digesting lactose. An excellent
product called Assimilate has these enzymes and has been found in a well
known research laboratory [Mayo Clinic] to dramatically increase absorption
of many nutrients [including selenium, zinc, and essential fatty acids] by
up to 70%.
If the body is short of enzymes for digestion, white blood cells are brought
into play as they do have enzymes and they will attack the food patricles to
break them down. While they are thus engaged they cannot be doing the jobs
they should be doing fighting diseases and abnormalities such as cancer.
Assimilate is available from VitaMedics, 19142 South Molalla Ave., Oregon
Ciry, OR 97214, toll free 1- 800 - 216 - 2724, regular (503) 656 - 1993 or
fax 450 - 656 - 2992. I have recently discovered that VitaMedics has
another product called Mega-Zyme. I have been informed that this product is
superior to Assimilate when fighting cancer.
An excellent enzyme product that has a formula identical with Assimilate
is available from Sullivan Creek Distributing, 258 Sullivan Creek Lane,
Cascade MT 59421. 1-888-406-4066. (406) 468-3099 Fax (406) 468-3099
E-Mail: info@...
Another excellent product, Similase, the professional brand, is available
from Center for Natural Medicine Dispensary, 1330 S.E. 39th Ave., Portland,
OR 97214, toll free 1 - 888 - 305 - 4288, or fax 503 - 232 - 7751
Another excellent source of enzymes is Enzyme formulations, Inc., 6421
Enterprise Lane, Madison WI 53719 or call I - 800 - 614 - 4400 for catalog.

Hi,
I will send a couple more documents I have for those new to the list.
Cliff
Brain Tumors - Things we have seen
This morning I received a message concerning things that we have known
about with brain tumors.
I am not a doctor. I do have a graduate minor in Biology, and can observe
things that
have happened. A lot of what I am aware of recently came from a book
written by Al Carter, a medical research journalist, entitled "The Cancer
Answer". It is available at 1-888-464-5867. I am not an agent, this is
simply an excellent book. There is also an excellent video on the immune
system.
A few years back a friend of ours in Orrville, Ohio asked us to send a tape
to a daughter in law in Florida who had a brain tumor. I don't know how
long it was after that
that we heard from them concerning this lady. By this time the tumor had
completely disappeared. She was not telling anybody in the medical field
what she was doing and the story was that the doctors were going nuts trying
to figure out what happened. Her husband, inlaws and some friends were all
on this regimen for prevention.
There has been no more contact. We have observed a lot over the last seven
years.and I wish there were a way and time to update everyone with whom we
have had contact.
In early 1994 a young man 24 had a siezure at work and an MRI found he had
a brain tumor. There was an operation at a major cancer center in The
Southeast and a major part of it was removed but it could not all be excised
and he was told that further effective treatment would not be possible. He
might make it from two to four months.
About that time a friend gave him a tape and he began using flaxseed oil
and cottage cheese. Three months later he went back to the cancer center
and there was no change. Three months later he went back for another
checkup and the doctor told him, "I have no explanation for this but there
is no further cause for concern."
I knew about this because by this time his mother called me and told me. I
heard no more for some time and then heard that the young man was in trouble
again. He had figured that all was well and quit using the oil.
Again he used it and in a few weeks was doing well again. The next time I
heard from them he had gone back to the center and phoned his mother that
what was left of the tumor had shrunk in half. Now, for the first time he
asked the doctor what he thought of using flaxseed oil. The Doctor said,
"If you are using flaxseed oil, keep it up. I use it every day". This man
is one of the top neurosurgeons in The Southeast. Then I heard from his
mother that He had gone down for a check up and came home without waiting
for the results. At the time she talked to me she felt very optimistic when
the report came from the doctor. I know now that he had a grade 4
Astrocytoma which is usually fatal in six months to a year from its
inception. On October 19, 1999 I met a man who knew him and he told me
Mitch was not doing well. He passed away a short time later. He used the
flax oil to the end.
Dr. Basile also knew him well and told he that he thought that in part his
death at that time came from complications from the chemo and steroids that
he was still getting. The upside is that he had at least four years of good
quality life added as a result of the use of Flaxseed Oil. Without the
chemo and steroids he might have done evern better.
My Oncologist told me that no doctor believes that cancer is ever cured, but
that all they can do is try to keep ahead of it as long as possible.
Compared to normal expectations Mitch did well.
One lady I know of is around 37 and has seven children. She also has a
fast growing brain tumor. They are treating with chemo. I do not know
whether they did any operating or not. The family was not willing that she
should abandon standard treatment but finaly did add the use of flax oil.
The last I heard in early summer of 1999 she had about two months more of
chemo scheduled and she is doing quite well. I believe that she has already
made it longer than the doctors thought possible. We know by now that even
if standard treatment is continued the use of the flaxseed oil appears to be
highly beneficial.
As of today, Aug 3, 1999, I understand that there have been two operations
which have left her somewhat impaired and the doctors are still giving her
chemo. She is using flax oil and that appears to be causing her to survive
or so her friends believe. No one can ever know what would have happened
had she been put on heavy use of flax oil and not had the other treatments
that have been damaging because no one can ever try it both ways. Her folks
strongly opposed the use of Flaxseed Oil and herbs but finally relented
somewhat and allowed it to be used along with the chemo and now, in December
of 1999 are praising chemo for what it has done for their daughter. She is
still making it in the summer of 2002.
Cliff
If or when we receive more information concerning the results of anyone's
use of the oil in connection with brain tumors we will add it to this
document.
Cliff Beckwith

" A third study reported in the April 11, 2002 issue of the New England
Journal of Medicine determined that men without heart disease were 81% less
likely to experience sudden death due to fatal arrhythmia (irregular
heartbeat) when their blood levels of omega-3 fatty acids were high
regardless of their age, smoking habits or amount of other types of fatty
acids in their blood.
Despite consensus that omega-3 fatty acids can reduce heart disease and
sudden death due to heart-related causes, medical experts report conflicting
messages on how best to reap these rewards. Life Extension has long
advocated that people eat cold-water fish and supplement with omega-3 fatty
acids from fish, flax or Perilla oils."
The article is at http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2002/jul2002_itn.html
Lorenzo

The article is at http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/324/7352/1476
Lorenzo
"Scientists develop more sensitive grading system for prostate cancer
Researchers in the United States have developed a simple test that can be
used to identify which patients with prostate cancer need the most
aggressive treatment, even among those whose tumours seem to be at the same
stage of development."

There are others who know more about MSM. It may be a useful adjunct to
sulfur bearing essential amino acid bearing proteins (whew! what a mouthful)
but it is not an amino acid and the body can't make the essential amino acids
from it. There has been discussion here on the usefulness of MSM and
hopefully some of that was repeated for you.
Clyde
In a message dated 6/19/02 12:55:28 PM, Wong111@... writes:



Nutriteam has an excellent synopsis of MSM data with sources identified.

Lorenzo.

In a message dated 06/07/2002 1:05:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, KJones@... writes:

Thanks for the info Dr. Bormann! Good news, the MSM I get from http://www.nutriteam.com/msm.htm turns CRYSTAL CLEAR the moment I mix it into water. Best Price I have foundâ¦

Does anyone know where to get more information on the nutritional values of
grapeseed oil?
This statement is from http://grapeseedoilcorp.com/medical.html several
other places sell the oil also just search with Google and take your pick if
you want to buy it mail order, some stores sell it. I have not found cold
pressed oil; however some sellers say the alcohol solvent expressed
grapeseed oil is almost totally free of any solvent residue.
It appears that it should be examined more carefully, especially because it
can be used for cooking. One seller claims that the better Chefs in Europe
use it.
Lorenzo
GRAPESEED OIL
Is a polyunsaturated oil that is rich in
linoleic acid. At 68 - 76%, it contains the highest amounts of linoleic acid
among any oil or food source.
One tablespoon of GRAPESEED OIL
provides nearly the recommended daily allowance for Vitamin E.
Recent studies have shown
that grape seed-derived proanthrocyanidins prevents cardiovascular disease
and can counteract the negative effects of high cholesterol on the heart and
blood vessels.
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No we do not have to be OLD to be Grouchy..And I've seen some grouchy
children in my life time too.
What is a grouch: it is someone ill-tempered,and impatient.. whom tends to
grumble or complaine all the time with no let up..or murmurs under their
breath when irritated to the point of no return..a moody time when it seems
the world is against them, that everyone else is feeling better and you're
not.
1
.. What can be done? The only cure for grouchy ... A loving person does not
mentally dwell on the evil, hurtful things that have been done to him in the
past. ...So we that are considered not grouchy should reach out to help
another in need at the moment.
I never leave a list when I see a grouch come on.l.instead I've learned to
go to a secret place and pray for the grouch..and sooner or later I get
peace of mind, and it gives to me another chance to be alone with God,
whereas otherwise I might have missed that opprotunity to.
I look at people that are grouchy and in most cases they are grumpy because
they have never in all their life felt good. I know of people that have even
asked me' Mis Judy what does it feel like to feel good. How will I know if I
m getting better? Is there going to bee a quick awakening?" and the
questions go on and on.
Feeling good, and etc, is when a person, is able to think for themselves
instead of having to have others do it for them ..Feeling well is when you
have the strength to get out of bed every day wtih no excess pains..Feeling
good is when you can eat many foods and it will not cause distress, or
allergies,etc. Felling well is when you can turn around and help another
perosn find the cures you are finding to help yourself stay healthy.
And the list goes on and on.

Hello my loved members : [INLINE]

No Starris, nobody is an old crab as you say, I did not mean that, and maybe most of us will be a little rock in our grandchildren´s shoes, maybe this happens as soon as we get older. Lorenzo made me lose my temper when he is attacking someone, that is all.

Richest blessings for everybody. Keep faith!!!

Gaby.

Starris <starrisg@...

But...but...but...I'm a not a fellow. I'm just old and set in my ways and glad of it!
Starris

Hello Members: [INLINE]

I would suggest you not to pay attention to Lorenzo when he wants to start a fight for nothing, he is like my grandfather, nobody is right but him. Lorenzo is like a little rock in the shoe.

Gaby.

Dee H <qponcrazed@...

I don't even know who Adele Davis is, but if she was a health advocate and yet chain smoked isn't that kind of a bit odd? My theory is if you don't practice what you preach then keep your mouth shut. But then again like I said I know NOTHING about this woman but I don't find it odd that Carol would mention the chain smoking.

Dee

Leonard,
Thanks for all of the information that you provide. We are very
fortunate to have you on this list and on the Amazon list. I, for one,
REALLY appreciate all the information that you give us. I also am
grateful that you share what you learn when you attend all those
conventions/conferences/speakers on cancer topics.
Thanks for your vast knowledge.
Carolyn

Hey! You are Awesome!!
In a message dated 6/10/02 10:49:13 PM, mrjau@... writes:

Hello Cliff:
Sorry for staying mute so long.
At the beginning I followed the Budwig diet religiously, but
then I started neglecting it as I was too busy during the day.
I am feeling fine now, my PSA in March 02 was 3.0. I am 71 1/2
now and quite fit, still go to weight training, play tennis and do
bike rides or jogging on a regular basis.
I did not contact Dr. Budwig any more, as her treatment
has helped me. Maybe I will go and see her when I am in the
Black Forest (Germany) again.
What I still do:
- Massage with El-Di (electron-differentiating) oil, then shower
hot for 5 min, then cold for 5 min. Return to bed for 5-15 min.
- Breakfast:
- 2 glasses of green tea
- 250 g Quark or cottage cheese with 5 tbs FSO.
Normally I add a plop of honey, some flavoring and 2 tbs
ground flax seed or Linomel, and a fruit (berries, banana, etc.)
- Multivitamin (Spectro-3, Solaray), 1000 mg C (tablets), E,
Se, CoQ10, CaMgZn, B compound.
I am busy the entire day (40 % in the US, 50% in Germany,
10% travelling), so I do not/cannot follow any special diet.
I simply avoid the "prohibited foods", and mostly everything
that has been processed.
And I never miss reading the fso mail - a great thing.
Thank you very much, Cliff, for all the help to so many persons.
Take care. Best regards from Yvonne
Otto

Mike,
In a message dated 6/10/02 4:22:56 AM, milpara@... writes:
I've never disagreed with her protocol, though I've been attacked from time
to time for doing so.
I don't disagree with Dr. Budwig on digestion. I disagree with you on
digestion. I don't find that Dr. Budgwig speaks directly to digestion.
Proteins are broken down in the digestive system into amino acids and then
rebuilt into specific proteins that our body uses. It is those proteins in
our body that attach to EFAs that Dr. Budwig refers to.
I have investigated. It is doubtful that they will ever be translated into
English.
Dr. Budwig has not released her research, at least in English. What I see in
books is on a level of anecdotal, at least as far as scientific reports.
There is lack of supporting data that would be required on even a high school
level of experimentation. But, I do not believe that anecdotal evidence is to
be denigrated or ignored.
I've never disagreed with anecdotal evidence. I disagree with the concept
that anecdotal evidence is scientific evidence. They are two different
animals. They have to be treated in different ways. There are times I look at
scientific evidence and upon looking at the protocols and limitations, see
that the research is flawed or misapplied. In my own personal health, I take
as input, both anecdotal and scientific evidence and then decide what to do.
The results that I see in my own body I then use to make further adaptations.
What I see in myself is more on an anecdotal level. Yet, it is the most
important level.
An interesting note is that allopathic doctors have often used anecdotal
evidence incorrectly and are more recently discovering that they need to
change and do things correctly. So, that is not the best argument for
anecdotal evidence. On the other hand, it is anecdotal evidence that has
often encouraged doctors and researchers to look in that direction for
treatments and cures for diseases. The problem is that with our commercial
medical society, they have to look for a patentable compound and leaving
things in forms closer to nature (of which FO/CC fits along with most
herbals) is not financially viable.
Clyde

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Bruce Fife article on "Facts on
Flax"=======================================================================
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Note:My apologies in advance. Pls pass over this e-mail now, if you don`t
like to read what may be considered controversial by some, O.K.? Thanks,
Mike Cinelli)
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Hi Lorenzo & All,
Thanks for the well balnced approach, Lorenzo. You are absolutely correct
about salesmanship and its great need in our society. In fact, those
"salesless" societies ( we call them civilizations, sometimes) usually rely
on the barter system or the State. The State then controls all means of
production and distribution. The U.S.A. got strong because of the
entreprenurial system, which is motivated by better production methods,
distribution, and meeting costs+ in order to earn a profit. Somehow, we are
getting away from what made us a great economy and are relying on Government
Assistance in Trade, Government Assistance in Heath ( All Gevt-based Medical
Insurances), and Government subsidies for "Research", [ read Big
Corporations] and "Development".[ Read GMO products, Cloning, and Stem Cell
research]. Some may be needed, but Soooo Much....????
The truth is , we are getting to be a very Socialistic Nation with Big
Corporations influencing all aspects of our lives. This was once called
"Fascism" or "The Corporate State". Is it all good? No. Is it all bad? No.
It depends on what side of the fence you are on... [ Don`t sit on the fence.
it might hurt!]. If you need money for research, you must have impeccable
credentials ( read, sanctioned by the A.M.A., which leaves out the little
guy struggling with a good idea or concept, e.g. Hoxsey, Dr. Koch, Dr. Rife,
Dr. Pauling, etc]. . The rule in the USA is to follow the A.M. A.`s
direction and then you`ll be safe. Safe from what? I leave that to you...The
V.A. hospitals, Medicare, Medicaid, and all the Govt. Agencies responsible
for our health follow the same path: "It`s got to be approved first, before
it can be offered or paid."
This means that the freedom in the entreprenurial system that made the
U.S.A. great to begin with, is no longer in place as it formerly was. Now
it`s 'Big This' or 'Big That'. Will it ever change back? Maybe, and there
are good signs that the Govt Agencies are having a re-think about what works
and what doesn`t. "Higher Taxes" and Gross Mismanagement and
Inefficiency", as well as dismal results, will be the real motivating
forces. Already there are some changes coming into play, like the
re-acceptance of some time aged institutions which were outlawed from 1935
to the mid-1980`s,...Chiropractors! Acupunctists! Naturopaths! and
Homeopathic Prctitioners! ( They were the mainstream doctors in the USA).
The A.M.A. knocked them out, and all other practitioners who did not follow
the A.M.A.`s guidelines, that is, attending their Accredited Medical
Schools, and passing the Medical Board Examination of the respective state
where they lived.The A.M.A. lobbied all states to incorporate their "Laws".
In other words, it was a closed shop "sanctioned by the individual state
legislatures." However, the Internet backlash, more aware people, and acute
observation of our health program failures, have necessitated the changes.
But don`t get your hopes up too much! Now the U.N. has come into play and we
have the European Commission trying to pass Codex Alimentarius (Codifying
the Laws of Acceptable Food). This is a "paper thin" trick to give the
Allopathic Industry the right to prescribe what can be given to people, like
Vitamins, Minerals, Enzymes, Amino acids, and over -the-counter "what have
you, "etc. That means you can only get these items by a doctor`s
prescription! It`s called "the backdoor approach" in the real world, since
our Congress defeated this very thing back in 1994.... Some European
countries cannot get these items already and those that are available are so
weak that they may be totally ineffective...Check out Germany! The U.K.,
I`d like to hear from some list members in those countries to know the
actual current situation from first hand knowledge. Thanks.)
Now back to Bruce Fife, N.D.. What is wrong with him calling himself an
N.D.(Doctor of Naturopathy)? Why, because he got his education via a
Correspondence course? What`s wrong with that? Today it`s called "Distance
Education"....Would you prefer him to attend a "bona fide" medical school
where he learns to dispense prescription drugs from Teachers who learned the
same way, etc.,etc.? I think not. It`s all the more credit to him for having
the initiative and work ethic to get a degree through "Home Study". Most
knowledge is acquired by oneself anyway, and a teacher or professor is only
the guiding force. Or do we want to go back to the Feudal Ages where you
must be what your father was, for example, once a Blacksmith always a
Blacksmith, or once a peasant always a peasant. No, we all have matured
differently and have hopefully risen above our humble origins be they " the
butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker'", etc....We, on this list, are
doing self-education, aren`t we? That`s healthy.
Bruce Fife is getting "an education" by the flack (not flax oil!) he has
run into from list members. He will have to research more and will be a
better person for it. And he and the Coconut Groups are doing all of us a
great service by bringing to the fore some healthy oils, instead of what we
have been forced to accept for years by mis and dis-information. Erroneous
thoughts will always be correced... Times are changing and for the
better...even if it`s in small steps forward.
I fully agree with Lorenzo that salesperson make our economy run and bring
exceptionally good products to market. Good luck to Bruce Fife and all who
have the energy and drive to make things a bit better. I don`t agree with
all he says as I don`t agree with some of what some of us say, but I try to
be open minded. As an optimist, I look for the best in people, and I
continually hope that the world will change for the better. That`s why I`m
on this list. Thanks for reading this far...
Good luck, Good reading and Good health to all, Mike Cinelli

I get my Grapeseed oil .... about a quart for $4.00 at ValueCity. My Grapeseed Extract giant economy size comes inexpensively from Sam's Club.
mjh
In a message dated 6/20/02 11:49:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lorenzo1@... writes:

I have looked for good data on grapeseed oil but not just recently. Hard to find!

Note: Now that it is hard to find grapes with seeds---it is possible to buy a bottle of grapeseed vitamins for $20
Please send the URL of any way to find out about grapeseed oil
Marilyn ----- I am afraid of Soy food- The kind available in the USA is not what is eaten in Asia!
May I suggest that Flaxseed Oil mixed with Cottage cheese is an ancient remedy.
Lorenzo

Sent

I have looked for good data on grapeseed oil but not just recently. Hard to find!

Note: Now that it is hard to find grapes with seeds---it is possible to buy a bottle of grapeseed vitamins for $20

Please send the URL of any way to find out about grapeseed oil

Marilyn ----- I am afraid of Soy food- The kind available in the USA is not what is eaten in Asia!

May I suggest that Flaxseed Oil mixed with Cottage cheese is an ancient remedy.

Lorenzo

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:41 AM

Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] coconut oil

I use fresh grape seed oil from the vinyard to do my high heat cooking. Husband was diagnosed with BPH after his bladder retained massage amounts of fluid and his entire body shut down except for his heart and lungs. His kidneys have been functioning at about 45% and he has to catheterize himself at least 4 times per day.

His last PSA was 10.5 and they have scheduled him (VA clinic) to have another biopsy in September. We found your list and he has been consuming 3 tbs of FO with 1/4 c of CC twice a day in addition to our herbal supplements. Earlier this week we were able to find Beta Glucan and he has started taking that.

We eat a soy diet regularly and the cottage cheese is our only dairy product. We both drink massive amounts of filtered water as we live in the country and have a well.

We won't know the results of this until Sept when he goes back to the clinic.

Marilyn

NW Florida

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How does the nature of her death make her work any less valid?
mjh
In a message dated 6/20/02 10:17:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kalo777@... writes:

I hate to pop any ones balloon but Adele Davis died of
cancer from being a chain smoker. That was a real
bummer after years of believing in her books. Hugs,
Carol B

Freeminded et al,
I don't like the taste of flax oil much so if one's life depends on it to
quite an extent one must get creative.
Cliff
USING FLAXSEED OIL
I have been asked different times about how to take flaxseed oil. I will
simply tell what we have tried and learned since June 1991. We were
basically on our own and still are.
Dr. Budwig latest recommendations are one tablespoon of oil per hundred
pounds body weight for maintenance of the needed Omega 3 and more to
overcome existing problems. We have seen best results with at least two
tablespoons beyond maintenance where cancer exists. She suggests at least a
half cup of cottage cheese per day. I have used three fourths of a cup. I
mix it in the morning, add fruit to give it a good taste and eat part of it
two or three times per day. The big thing is to add something to make it
taste good.
We are frequently asked about substitutes for cottage cheese for those who
do not like it or are allergic to it. It seems that soft Tofu will work
well. The oil should be mixed in it as much as possible. There is a
product called Companion Nutrients [Natures Distributors 1 - 800 - 624 -
7114] that is claimed to work well, and we have seen good success with it.
It is not expensive.
All the brands of oil are good as long as they are fresh and cold pressed.
Flaxseed oil will keep a year in a freezer, four months in a refrigerator,
but only three weeks at room temperature. After that it will deteriorate
into a transfatty acid that can actually c