coq10 et al and prices

2006-12-31 21:03:05

I've noticed people discussing supplements and the high cost. I guess I
shouldn't keep this to myself. The reason people are paying exuberant prices
for vitamins etc., including CoQ10 is a simple matter of supply and demand.
People are willing to pay. Add to that the middle men, advertising, and
whatever else, the prices will reflect all that.
CoQ10, which is known to be over 200% more absorbable when mixed with an
oil (coconut oil, olive oil and flaxoil..others I'm sure), can be bought in
the standard capsuled powder form and mixed, negating the need to pay for
the more expensive pre-mixed variety. I believe CoQ10 originates from only 2
sources, maybe 3, so anyone claiming theirs is superior to anything else is
blowing hot air, although mixed with oil is better. However, you can mix it
yourself and save $$$.
As far as CoQ10 for cancer, it seems to me there was a regimen of things
to take besides coq10 alone . I don't have the details in front of me.
If you wish, visit http://www.cat007.com and view Dr. Jon's prices. It may
shock you. This is a co-op and sounds too good to be true, but it's the real
McCoy. He may be limiting memberships, so get become one if you want to get
these great prices. There is a lot of interesting information on the website
as well.

Seeds

2006-12-31 15:00:57

Hi Mike,
Sounds like you are right on as to the analysis.
I think you are right on also that if a person is young and healthy there is
no need of an amount of oil and protein that is needed to fight cancer.
Here the use of seeds could well be effective, though whether it is better
than the use of an equivalent amount of oil and protein would be open to a
lot of questions in my mind.
I do not believe you would have any experimental evidence to prove that.
Nobody is experimenting with oil and protein.
However, when us older folks, and some younger folks, get hit with a
diagnosis of cancer, then go with three tablsepoons of ground seeds a day to
equal one tablespoon of oil and meet the rest of the need with a sufficient
amount of oil and cottage cheese.
Cliff

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Omega 6/Reply to Miz Judy

2006-12-31 12:47:10

Hi Miz Judy & Mel,

It`s always good to hear from you. Mike Martin has given a good answer about avocados.

Along "What to eat lines", I would like to pass on some simple basic thoughts about somethings that have crept up into our foods these last few decades through chemicals in foods. Many of our young people have never known what it is to eat good, tasty, wholesome food. After World War Two, the chemical and pharmaceutical companies ran rampart and added everything to our foods. Somewhere I read that over 600 chemicals have been added to our food since WW II. This has changed the eating habits of Americans and have deprived our children and young people of the joy of eating healthy foods. Today, "fast foods" like Mc Donalds, KFC, Donut shops, "All You Can Eat Places", etc., have become our way of life.These foods are overcooked, full of bad fats, and are loaded with hydrogenated oils. Only by eating organic foods or preparing foods ourselves can we actually eat and taste good wholesome foods. This is a dilemma and one reasons we are so overweight and ill, as a people and
nation. Reversal of our eating style and food preparation, currently laced with unhealthy fats, must be done or we will get worse. We have to get back to eating nutritious foods or we will get weaker and will come down with all kinds of diseases. Dr. Budwig is a shining light and can help us through this complicated food maze by offering sound advice on what to eat, and with her Flaxseed Oil/ Quark( cottage cheese/yoghurt) protocol.

Dr. Budwig`s book "The Oil-Protein Diet Cookbook" lists a wide variety of many good food preparations. Her protocol is a preventive one, excellent for someone who wants to continue to be healthy or wants to regain good health. We would do well by sticking to what she re- commends and by understanding the why`s and wherefor`s.She is deadly against the "hydrogenated oils" found in most foods today. Hydrogenation does wonders for longer shelf life of food in supermarkets, but destroys human health, and, leads to many degenerative diseases or to premature death. Our children, as well as all adults, will suffer. Avoidance of all "hydrogenated oils or partially hydrogenated oils "is best. It means a big change in eating life style for most Americans and people who eat packaged or canned foods or who eat out often in rstaurants. Preparing our own food in a healthy way, when possible, is rewarding in taste and better health.

Of course, we also have to be aware of new dangers and to adjust our eating habits to cope with the recently develped unlabeled GMO (Genetically modified organisms) as in soy, potatoes, corn, peas, tomatoes, etc., and for the harmful Monsanto hormone found in unlabeled USA milk. Dr.Budwig recommends only organic foods and food sources. We all know that times are changing for the worse in the food area with all the added synthetic chemicals that destroy good nutrients and cause great harm to the body. Dr. Budwig also emphazises avoiding and counter-balancing unhealthy fats. Everytime I re-read her books, I learn more and get reminded of what`s good.

For instance, she talks about good fats: " The fats in Flaxseed (i.e.): the electron-rich fats, which attract protein through their electrical potential, become water soluble when they combine with the 'good proteins' , as are present in Quark". [cottage cheese/yoghurt]. She continues, " They prevent the pathological isolation of fats and promote the secretion of mucous in all organs and mucous membranes. They load the energy supply necessary for the impulses that regulate heart activity. They attract oxygen and create oxygen reserves, which are equally importantant to the athlete as well as the convalescent." "The Oil-Protein Diet Cookbook"p 177.

These simple statements and her protocol focused on what we should be eating. Good luck and keep sending in your intersting questions and comments. They are very thought provoking and most welcomed. All the best, Mike Cinelli

Leukeia

2006-12-31 04:41:20

Hi,
I am sorry if there is confusion here. In all cases of where I spoke, the
flaxseed oil is combined with Cottage cheese. I would imagine that the
Companion nutrients would also be effective if taken with it.
Without analyzing why something should be as it is, I will only say that the
blood counts in all cases came out fine. Read them again.
I was thinking about this more this evening in light of some of the
messages.
There is no experimental evidence outside of Dr. Budwig's own work
concerning flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. There never will be.
We are experimenting with seeds only and not with the protein association
that Dr. Budwig found to be essential. With the small amounts with which we
are experimenting there may be enough proteins in the rest of what we eat to
make them helpful.
If you wish to see the results of our experimentation visit the Oncology
wards of any hospital. Read down through the obituaries and see how many
have died "after a long illness". Testimony to what we are doing and have
done should be evident.
When I began to follow what I knew of Dr. Budwig's protocol and began
talking to others about it my enthusiasm was based on what this Great Lady
had done and that was all I needed. Her record of 98% success got my
attention.
We have seen great successes though probably not as complete in all cases
as would have been true if her dietary regimen were completely followed.
Another great factor is her refusal to use any chemo or radiation. I
understand that there are no real experimental evidence that indicates that
life is extended in the majority of the cases where it is used.
Capsules may have their uses in some situations but if there is anything
serious in the offing they are simply too little. Dr. Budwig says we need
one tablespoon of oil a day [plus the proteins] for each hundred pounds of
body weight to maintain the needed Omega 3.
We have soon good results normally in the case of cancer with four
tablespoons a day. That would be a bunch of capsules. The oil is far
cheaper even if the capsules were fully effective.
With any of this each of us must evaluate the evidence and decide for
themselves.
However, even if one uses flax oil and chemo and then dies, I would not want
to hear them say that they used flax oil and it was not effective. While
flax oil is helpful even with chemo, chemo will destroy in the end.
I know that The Lord can heal miraculously. My mother was within a few
weeks of death from Leukemia in 1953 and in direct answer to prayer God
touched her body and she died at 73. She died of Leukemia but God gave her
a normal life. It was not American medicine.
Cliff

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Omega Primer/Reply

2006-12-30 21:31:45

Hi Mike Martin,

This e-mail is a real contribution for the correct balance of Omega 3 ratio to Omega 6 which is 4:1 and it will help dispel some erroneous ideas. You are doing a great job. I must also say that your suggested use of KIM is positive. Jane can sure add some things in her next book and that will help a lot of people and the Budwig cause.Keep up the good work Thanks and best , Mike Cinelli

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Selenium

2006-12-30 18:23:26

ABSTRACT;
Conclusions: Low plasma selenium is associated with a 4 to 5-fold
increased risk of prostate cancer. These results support the hypothesis
that supplemental selenium may reduce the risk of prostate cancer. Because
plasma selenium decreases with patient age, supplementation may be
particularly beneficial to older men.
Conclusions: Low plasma selenium is associated with a 4 to 5-fold
increased risk of prostate cancer. These results support the hypothesis
that supplemental selenium may reduce the risk of prostate cancer. Because
plasma selenium decreases with patient age, supplementation may be
particularly beneficial to older men.
FROM:
PHCa-Newsletter-unsubscribe@egroups.com
Subject: Plasma Selenium and risk of PCa.
PLASMA SELENIUM LEVEL BEFORE DIAGNOSIS AND THE RISK OF PROSTATE CANCER
DEVELOPMENT
JAMES D. BROOKS; E. JEFFREY METTER; DANIEL W. CHAN*; LORI J. SOKOLL*;
PATRICIA LANDIS; WILLIAM G. NELSON; DENIS MULLER; REUBIN ANDRES; H.
BALLENTINE CARTER
Stanford, California, and Laboratory of Clinical Investigation, National
Institute on Aging, Gerontology Research Center and Departments of
Urology, Oncology and Pathology, The Johns Hopkins University School of
Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland
THE JOURNAL OF UROLOGY 2001;166:2034-2038

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Leukemia

2006-12-30 14:49:26

After reading the "testimonies", I have the impression
that they are taking flaxseed oil only, not the budwig
mix of FO/CC.
Am I correct?
Thanks
David
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Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] More On Omegas

2006-12-30 00:16:53

Dear Mike,
If flax is important for everyone - those with cancer
included (like my dad whose blood counts are currently
healthy, but with cancer cells detected at 8% - which
doctors diagnosed as MDS; and may turn to leukemia),
can I get my dad some flaxseed oil in softgel form for
him to take as a supplement?
I am thinking if it is better for him to take
(1) just Flaxseed oil
OR
(2) FO/CC mix
Sincerely
David

More On Omegas

2006-12-29 19:00:30

To The Group:

In a normal western diet, Omega-6 is about all your getting. Unless you are eating fish two or more times per week, your intake of Omega-3 is very small. For that reason Flax is important to everyone.

If your an otherwise healthy person, there is no need to be doing a cancer treatment protocol and

ground flax will benefit you more. Which is exactly what my wife talks about in her book. However, If your a cancer survivor, or have a terrible diet, then Flax Oil may well be the answer. The reason being, the concentration of the Omegas in Flax Oil is three times higher then that in ground flax seed, therefore more practical for consumption of large volumes.

We are well into a comprehensive analysis of Dr. Budwigs protocol. We have already analyized Flax Oil and Cottage Cheese, the Spread and the Mayo as well as her diet too. We hope to be releasing that information in comming weeks.

Respectfully,

Mike Martin

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Omega Primer

2006-12-29 18:35:08

To The Group :

The chief benefit of using Flax Seed Oil is the Omega 3 Fatty Acids.
Everything positive that you have read regarding flax oil resides with the
Omega-3's. In scientific terms Omega-3 is known by several names and here
they are : "Alpha Linolenic Acid" - "ALA" - "n-3". On blood tests and
nutritional analysis you will see "Linolenic n-3 18:3". These all refer to
the same thing. There are several other members of the Omega-3 family. On
those kinds of reports, the thing to remember and look for is n-3, they are "good guys".
The other principal ingredient in flax oil is Omega 6 fatty acids. In
scientific terms Omega-6 is known by several names and here those are
"Linoleic Acid" - "LA" - "n-6". On blood tests and
nutritional analysis you will see "Linoleic n-6 18:2". These all refer to
the same thing as well. There are several members of the Omega-6 family. On
those kinds of reports the thing to remember is n-6, are the "bad guys".
Although your body needs both to operate properly, Omega-6 acids are
everywhere, the average diet consumes 20 parts Omega-6 to 1 Part Omega-3 (or
20:1). Most all scientist and medical professionals are calling for a huge
reduction in Omega-6 and a balance of 1 part Omega-6 to 4 parts Omega-3 (or
1:4). Omega-6 produces the inflamatory response in the human body,

among other things. When you take an asparin, it effectively blocks processing of

Omega-6 (and Omega-3too). Omega-6 is not really a bad guy, but it is processed

in the body by the same receptors that process Omega-3. This effectively blocks the bodies
ability to process Omega-3 (because the body is going to find 19 parts of
omega-6 before it finds an omega-3). Its kind of like standing in the check out line

at the grocery store and there are 19 people in front of you.
Like I said before, Omega-6's are everywhere. Balancing them is not going to
be easy. In fact its so hard that the National Institutes of Health has
created a computer program called KIM which stands for Keep It Managed. Its
a free program and you use it to help you figure out how to balance the
Omegas in your diet. Its a great program and lets you enter your diet and
then measures the balance. You can make changes to your diet and see what
effect it has on the over all balance. It takes a bit to learn the software - but
once you understand it - its not that bad. I told you I couldn't recomend.

When Miz Judy asked the question about avocado, I went to the KIM program

brought up avocado and added two tablespoons of flax seed and looked at the result.

KIM told me that the avocado contained 4418 worth of Omega 6 and 265 Omega 3.

The flax seed had 518 Omega 6 to 4350 Omega 3. The combined total for that

food choice : 4615 Omega-3 and 5454 Omega-6 thus yielding 839 more Omega-6

then Omega-3 - not a good thing. Another thing you can see here is that Flax Oil and

flax seed both have a ration of 9:1 Omega-3 to Omega-6 - thats a very good thing.

Here is a link were you can download KIM :
http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

Over on the Flaxhealth list I have posted a similar version of this so if you forget you

can go there and review.

Respectfully,

Mike Martin

small cell carcinoma cancer

2006-12-29 08:02:32

Hello all. I have a cousin that came to my business today and told me that she found out 4 months ago that she has small cell carcinoma cancer. She is on chemo and open to alternative therapies. Needless to say, I sent her home with several pages of Cliff's transcripts about flaxseed oil and cancer. Has anyone ever heard of this? Does anyone know of anything else that may help her? I thank you all in advance!

She said that her drs said it's like the 4th rarest cancer form right now. She has it in her galbladder, which they rmoved and found out that her belly is full of this cancer.

THANKS ALL!

Melanie

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Omega 6

2006-12-29 05:33:45

yes, would also like an answer on that too. Cynthia

Omega 6

2006-12-29 03:51:37

Miz Judy :

There is a huge bunch of Omega 6's in a raw Avocado - doesn't make it a very good choice.

Respectfully,
Mike Martin

Then I'm confused about the Omega's that a person is to be getting daily..Why is it that with cancer patients they have to be careful with their use each day?

Dear Mike, or anybody;

If we have no Cancer can it still be to much Omega six ( 6 ).. In other words Flaxseed oil taken at the right amount, is all we need to have each day..so that when we add another food other than cottage-cheese, ( for protein we could get to MUCH Omega's..right or am I still off track here?)..What if Avocado is cooked prior..then is it still not good to consume with Flaxseed oil? Or ate separately soon after taking the Oil and cottage cheese..lets say by one half hour or so..prior or after?

Thanks for an honest Answer..I'd like everybodys opinion on this.

Miz Judy and Mel

Blood cells

2006-12-28 13:08:50

Hi,
In the account of Shiloh, I seem to remember that one of the things that was
happening after Shiloh began getting the FO/CC was that in ten days the bone
marrow was "making red blood cells like mad" .
When my mother had Leukemia one of the things I seem to remember was that
the white blood cells increased rapidly and "ate up" the red cells.
All I know from the accounts I have so far is that with the use of FO/CC
with Leukemia the blood counts do fine.
Cliff

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Once More

2006-12-28 10:39:09

I am confused Cliff. I've read that MDS (pre leukemia) is the bone marrow
will not produce red blood cells. Therefore there already is a higher white
blood cell count - and of course with any illness the white blood cell count
goes even higher. Well, if FSO/CC makes more white blood cells that would
logically cause a bigger problem for leukemia, no? Or does FSO/CC also
assist in making red blood cells (isn't that what leukemia victims need?), or
don't we really know that evaluation?
TIA
BonnieB
In a message dated 12/8/2001 12:29:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
spinner@... writes:
<<
Hi,
I am not a medical person, and the farther that I go, I am realizing more
and more that all forms and types of cancer are very complicated and involve
a lot of different things.
There may well be all kinds of exceptions.
However, I do not know of a single case of Leukemia so far that the use of
Flaxseed Oil has not put into remission, except the one I described with my
brother in law. Even there, the evidence is strong to me that the chemo had
a lot more to do with his death than anything else.
I believe that if he had started with Flaxseed Oil and never had any chemo
he could very well be alive today.
That is my personal belief, and not an opinion that should affect anyone's
thinking. You should cosult your physician and get the full approval of the
AMA before deciding on the best way to get well. or at least stay well as
long as possible.
I have heard the state of New Jersey has laws making it illegal to treat
cancer without chemo. They have five major chemo manufacturing facilities
in New Jersey.
I cannot document that. My information may have been wrong. It is worth
investigation.

Spending on Drugs Linked to Advertising

2006-12-28 05:10:49

Last year the sales of pharmaceutical drugs increased
by a whopping 20.8 billion dollars. This is the result
of drug manufactures promoting their products directly
to consumers according to a New York Times article
dated November 21, 2001.
One company, Merck and Company spent 160.8 million
dollars to promote Vioxx, out-spending Pepsi and Budweiser
advertisements combined.
The article points out that physicians prescribed drugs
to two of every three patients that came to them. Well,
daaah! Isn't that the point, to buy more drugs?
According to Dr. Mercola of Optimal Wellness Center, this
is one of the main reasons why spending for prescription
drugs is the fastest-growing category of health care expenditures.
It is also one of the major factors contributing to the reason
physicians are the third leading cause of death in the US,
as they have an over reliance on using drugs as Band-Aids,
rather than seeking the cause of the problem.
You can learn more about this report at:
http://www.mercola.com/2001/dec/8/drug_advertising.htm

Cottage Cheese

2006-12-27 22:05:14

HI,
I just reread Peter's letter, and want to make one more comment. I
understand folk's reservations about dairy products.
From objective articles I have read I don't really know how vital that is.
However, if there is any feeling along that line, Companion Nutrients, which
were developed by a company in Arizona to replace the cottage cheese, seem
like a very good way to go.
We have seen them be very effective and I have used them and do use them now
at times. One capsule per tablespoon of oil regardless of instructions on
the bottle. It is cheaper than cottage cheese.
Nature's Distributors 1 800 624 7114
Cliff

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lymphoma

2006-12-27 19:27:27

Cliff one of my Dals has two sebacious (sp) cysts on her side do you think
Flaxseed oil and cottage cheese would help? Or the oil applied directly onto
the lumps?
Thanks
donna
In a message dated 01/8/12 1:13:45 PM, spinner@... writes:
<<
Within two weeks the lumps on her neck were gone and the mass in her chest
was reduced by 42%.
A couple of wee

Once More

2006-12-27 08:45:02

Hi,
I am not a medical person, and the farther that I go, I am realizing more
and more that all forms and types of cancer are very complicated and involve
a lot of different things.
There may well be all kinds of exceptions.
However, I do not know of a single case of Leukemia so far that the use of
Flaxseed Oil has not put into remission, except the one I described with my
brother in law. Even there, the evidence is strong to me that the chemo had
a lot more to do with his death than anything else.
I believe that if he had started with Flaxseed Oil and never had any chemo
he could very well be alive today.
That is my personal belief, and not an opinion that should affect anyone's
thinking. You should cosult your physician and get the full approval of the
AMA before deciding on the best way to get well. or at least stay well as
long as possible.
I have heard the state of New Jersey has laws making it illegal to treat
cancer without chemo. They have five major chemo manufacturing facilities
in New Jersey.
I cannot document that. My information may have been wrong. It is worth
investigation.

Lymphoma

2006-12-27 08:14:07

About 13 weeks ago a girl in our area was found to have non hodgkins
Lymphoma. There were two lumps on her neck and a mass in her chest.
Her father was an engineer and a customer of a man in our church who filled
him in on the flaxseed oil protocol.
'The doctors started chemo and her father started her on 6 tablespoons per
day of Flaxseed oil with cottage cheese.
Within two weeks the lumps on her neck were gone and the mass in her chest
was reduced by 42%.
A couple of weeks later the only thing showing on the X rays was a shadow
where the mass had been.
The doctors have continued the chemo treatments though there have been no
detectable cancer cells now for over a month. I think the last chemo that
had been planned is now finished.
Her father has tried to talk about what they have been doing besides the
chemo but the doctors seem to be avoiding the situation. He says they seem
to realize that something unexpected is happening and don't want to talk
about it.
I have just heard from her father on May 13, 2001 that she is taking a
maintenance amount of Flaxseed Oil, and there is no detectable cancer with
the most sensitive tests available at the University of Tennessee.
Cliff

Shiloh

2006-12-26 22:32:43

Hi,
Animals get Leukemia also. His owner has been on the flaxeed oil list. I
do not know if he is still with us, but the account is still in my computer.
Cliff
This is One of the most remarkable evidences of the power of Omega 3 that I
have.
This dog was getting the equivalent of 9 tablespoons a day for a 165 pound
man.
SHILOH
Dear Mr. Beckwith, My dog , Shilo was diagnosed with Myelogenous
Leukemia with supression of red blood cells and platelet production on
3/18/99. The U.OFM. in ST. Paul which is one of the best vet hospitables
in the country did a bone marrow on Shilo who is only 3 and half years
old and a CBC and found cancer cells alot in his blood . All they could
offer was to put him on Predizone and by him a little time. Depressed
and very sad I went on the Inernet and with the help of GOD I found your
page on Flax OIL and read the testimonials. The next day I started Shilo
on Flax Oil and cottage Cheese 3 Table spoons a day and right away I
started seeing results. Four days later I took him back to the Vets and
they did a CBC Blood test and they were amazed and didn't understand why
his white count was normal { after having hardly any white blood cells
at all} his Platelets were clotting normal. and he was producing red
blood cells at a fast rate. The Veternarians were baffled. They also
could not find one Cancer cell in his blood !! Besides The Flax Oil I
have him on vitamin C, E, Geinstein, and a multi vitamin for dogs to
help his Immune systym I know in my heart the thing that really made the
differance was the Flax seed OIL. Shilo weighs 56 pounds and is a Golden
Retriever. I will be seeing the vet in another week for a blood test and
I know it will come out cancer free. Shilo is feeling great and acting
like a normal dog and 10 days ago he had a 106 temp and dying. Bless You
Mr. Beckwith ,Shirley, and Ms. Bud Wig!! Please right back to me God
Bless, Kirk Heckel , and Tim Brown.
Dear Cliff, Just to let you know Shilo had a blood test today and there
was NO sign of cancer cells in his blood and his platelets and Red blood
cells were normal. He is still getting 3 tablespoons of Flaxoil and
cottage cheese a day. D242
Hi Cliff, Thank you for the info on the lady from Missouri. Its so
wonderful to know that I can help other people , like you and others
have helped me. Your testimonials saved Shilo's life. Shilo is doing
great. Shilo and Woodson { My other dog} are both on Flax oil and
cottage cheese and vitamins. Their energy level is so much better and
Shilo seems even more healthier than even before he was sick. Every body
who has seen Shilo can't believe how good he looks and how his fur coat
is so shiny and thick. My Grandmas dog " Jake" has had problems with hot
spots. She started him on flax oil with cottage cheese and the hot spots
are going away. My mom and Dad and sister are giving it to themselves
and their dogs. AS for my vets, my vet knows about the flax oil but the
vets at the University Of Minnesota don't know yet. They probably think
Shilo is dead, because I haven't seen them since May. I believe timing
is everything so I plan on sending them a christmas card with a picture
of Shilo and a letter saying he is alive and well . I will explain to
them what I have been doing and I will suggest to them that they need to
do a study on flax oil and cancer with terminal dogs.Maybe that will
floor them. Have any other suggestions? Ron Conley is working on Shilo's
story for an up comming news letter. It should be pretty cool. I have to
tell you something , you should get a kick out of this. Shilo, Woodson
and myself take the flax oil and cottage cheese. As you can guess I go
thru a lot of cottage cheese each week. So when ever there is a sale on
cottage cheese I stock up. Last week I went to the grocery store and saw
a sale on cottage cheese, so I bought about 10 containers . They also
had a sale on pickles so I bought a couple of jars. So I am going up to
the register and getting wierd looks from people. The cashier gives me a
funny look . I start laughing. I thought they must think I have a
pregnant wife or I have strange food cravings , pickles and cottage
cheese. Oh well . I hope everything is going good for you , keep me
updated, take care , D242

Mr. White

2006-12-26 20:51:04

Mr. Beckwith, I am listing Eursal's "testimony" below. Hope this is brief
enough for you to use. Feel free to cut any portion that you may feel isn't
worth repeating! I tend to become very "chatty" when writing (or talking!).
Ha! Marie White
I was diagnosed with Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia in June, 1997. I was told
that CLL is the slowest acting form of leukemia, but, unlike other forms, it
would never go into remission. I was also told to wait as long as possible
before starting chemotherapy simply because the more you take the more you
have to take and the chemo often kills you before the leukemia does.
Unfortunately, I had to take my first chemotherapy treatment in November of
?97. I did really well for one year and then had to repeat it. The second
treatment in November, ?98 went against me. My body quit making blood. I
had blood transfusions about every two weeks until February when my own
blood developed anti-bodies that couldn't be matched. A bone marrow biopsy
that same month confirmed large tumors in the bone marrow showing very
little red blood. I was given a total of four units of unmatched blood on
February 19 & 20 and then started another regimen of a different chemo drug.
My doctor suggested 4-6 treatments of the new drug to be taken 3 weeks
apart.
During this time I had to get some work done on my car and the mechanic who
serviced it told me about flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. He put me in
touch with Cliff Beckwith who discussed in great detail the benefits of the
combination of flaxseed oil and cottage cheese. Mr. Beckwith then sent me
one of his tapes which was very interesting and informative.
My wife searched the Internet for information on Dr. Budwig and her winning
combination. After evaluating all the information we had gathered, we made
the decision to try the flaxseed oil. I added this to my diet following my
second chemo treatment. When I went for my third chemo treatment, my blood
work was looking better. When I went back for my fourth chemo treatment,
the blood work was really looking great. The doctor suggested at that point
we discontinue chemo for a while to which I heartily agreed.
I continue to take the flaxseed oil\cottage cheese daily. After nine
months, my white blood count remains under 20,000 and I feel great. I
praise God for sending Mr. Beckwith into my life and making me aware of Dr.
Johanna Budwig's research. I tell everyone what this combination has done
for me and recommend it to everyone I meet, especially to cancer victims.
When Mr. White came to out living room he was in a wheel chair most of the
time and not expected to make it two weeks. The funeral had been planned.
He passed away recently but had a number of years of good quality of life
which was far more than he had with standard treament.
I believe he was 77 or more when he died. I believe he did do some more
chemo. He might have been better off without it.
It is difficult to get the chemo industry to see that.
Of course, I learned long ago the the Oncology industry is not there for MY
health, except in some rare instances. I know of one.

Leukemia

2006-12-26 05:35:58

Hi,
Since the subject of Leukemia has come up I am going to put on the list a
series of messages and developments with Leukemia collected over a number of
years. Folks new to the list may find them of interest.
Some have seen them before.
I have not analyzed the reasons, only the results. That is where the rubber
meets the road.
Cliff
Cliff, I just received this from my daughter, whose husband, Mark, is taking
chemo for leukemia. His doctor told him that they couldn't cure it, but
maybe
they could extend his life a couple years, and that "his kind of leukemia
never
gets better".
Hi dad,
Mark went in to the doctor and got the results to the blood test that
was done yesterday. The doctor said something is working because there has
been a drastic change. His platelet count has doubled and his white count is
down by half. glory be to our God I feel as though I've got a marriage
again. He's taking his flax oil and is very good about taking his silver
water. love you dad
Cliff, I just received this from my daughter, whose husband, Mark, is taking
chemo for leukemia. His doctor told him that they couldn't cure it, but
maybe
they could extend his life a couple years, and that "his kind of leukemia
never
gets better".
Subject:
Date:
Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:10:46 -0800
From:
"The Bishops" <MARY_1699@...
To:
<rrochon@...
Hi dad,
Mark went in to the doctor and got the results to the blood test that
was done yesterday. The doctor said something is working because there has
been a drastic change. His platelet count has doubled and his white count is
down by half. glory be to our God I feel as though I've got a marriage
again. He's taking his flax oil and is very good about taking his silver
water. love you dad

Water

2006-12-26 05:12:30

75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. In 37% of
Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is
often mistaken for hunger.&nbsp; Even MILD
dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as
3%.
One glass of water shuts down midnight hunger pangs for
almost 100% of the dieters studied in a U-Washington
study.&nbsp;&nbsp; Lack of water is the #1 trigger of
daytime fatigue. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10
glasses of water a day could significantly ease back and
joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.
A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy
short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and
difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a
printed page. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases
the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the
risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely
to develop bladder cancer.
Are you drinking the amount of water you should every
day?
Of course, too much water may have strange side effects

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Flaxseed and Avocado

2006-12-26 00:19:26

Miz Judy :

There is a huge bunch of Omega 6's in a raw Avocado - doesn't make it a very good choice.

Respectfully,

Mike Martin

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2006-12-25 20:52:18

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Flaxseed and Avocado

2006-12-25 12:34:53

[INLINE]
Question..
Tonight while shopping I was in the vegetable department and talking to a man buying avocado's. We talked about various subject on health, and somehow I mentioned flaxseed oil. He had heard it would be good, but never thought he could stomach the taste. then he asked me if I thought he could mash up an ripe avocado and add the oil to it instead of cottage cheese, or use both? ( or even fruits to this combination ) Now I had no idea what to honestly tell him.As for myself I might consider that, since I love avocado on sandwiches with tomatoes..But another question..combinations: does this change the Omega's?

Love Miz Judy

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Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Budwig mix for blood cancer

2006-12-25 05:09:45

Dave,

Welcome to the group. I am sorry to hear of your Dad's condition. Hopefully with the help of some of the people on this list, we can help you help your Dad. Its fortunate for you Dad that you can be there for him, family support is always a positive factor when dealing with any illness.

As you head down this path there will be a lot for you to learn. Many of the people hear are facing their own health challenges and you will find them to be an excellent source of inspiration as well as information.

Unfortunately there are no scientific studies that support the use of flax oil and the treatment of leukemia. But that doesn't always mean a whole lot. The first thing I would suggest to you, is to learn as much as possible about leukemia. I would be reluctant to suggest Dr. Budwigs protocol for your Dad or anyone else with Luekemia because the focus of the Flax Oil / Cottage Cheese protocol is the combination of sulfur amino acids or SAA's. The primary SAA's are provided by Cottage Cheese

and are Methionine and Cystein. One of the functions of SAA is the creation of Lykocytes with help in the creation of white blood cells. And for someone with luekemia, that could be a bad thing.

One of the lines in your posts read that you where looking at replacing margarine with the Budwig spread. Your going to want to take a hard look at the foods your eating. The beneficial ingredient of flax oil is Omega 3 fatty acid. Another ingredient in flax oil (and most all cooking oils and margarines) is Omega 6 fatty acids. Most americans consume way to many of the Omega 6 fats. The problem is when you consume to many Omega 6 fats, your body can not recieve any benefits from the Omega 3's. So it becomes very important to get the Omega's in balance.

I know this sounds like a lot of scientific gobble-de-gook, but that is why its important to learn. If you can afford it, I would suggest you go to your local bookstore and buy "The Omega Diet" by Dr. Artemis Simopoulos M.D.- $14.95. I think you would find that it would answer most of the questions about health benefits Flax.

If you would like to e-mail me privately, I would be happy to help you as best I can.

Sincerely,

Mike Martin

mdmartin57@...

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Preparation of Budwig mix

2006-12-24 22:08:00

Cancer cure Dr. Budwig Diet, Flax seed oil And Cottage cheese here is Dr budwig's testimony

Preparation of Budwig mix

2006-12-24 19:09:30

Dear all,
I wish to know how exactly the Budwig mix of flaxseed oil and cottage
cheese is prepared. A clear receipe would be appreciated. As I am new
to the list and one with no cooking experience, I would be grateful
for the minimal use of abbreviations in the recipe.
I intend to replace our daily breakfast spread of margarine on
wholemeal bread with this Budwig mix. Is it okay?
Thank you,
Dave

Budwig mix for blood cancer

2006-12-24 15:01:56

Dear All,
Two weeks ago, I was deeply saddened to learn that my daddy has MDS
and may progress to acute leukemia. I have since read about Budwig's
mix of cottage cheese with flaxseed oil.
1) I wish to know whether there are any harm in consuming this mix.
Please enlighten.
2) Also, anyone with information on how the mix or other therapies
that had helped to fight off cancer of the blood would be deeply
appreciated.
Thank you and God Bless.
Dave

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] CoQ10 should be a Cancer therapy.

2006-12-24 00:14:49

I would very much like to see another study. Since this 390mg Danish
reporting was exploited by Vitaline and others, many thousands of breast
cancer and other cancer patients have tried this -- often in far higher
doses. 390 mg of CoQ-10 will strain many budgets. I have not seen any
notable results with the patients I have seen who use it.
CoQ10 is very helpful as part of a protocol for anyone undergoing Adriamycin
or similar cancer therapy. It does protect the heart. It is very useful in
treating congestive heart failure, but for cancer, I am unconvinced.
Perhaps it is a preventative and the force of an authoritarian Danish
physicians belief in CoQ10 induced a placebo (but real) effect in his women
patients. I don't know, but I would like to hear from anyone who has used
it as a standalone and had success with it.
Vincent

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Gamma-Linolenic acid ( GLA)

2006-12-23 20:28:52

very intersting, research on the gla. thanks

CoQ10 should be a Cancer therapy.

2006-12-23 19:54:31

Dr. Atkins book says:
"Cancer. The presence of cancer correlates strongly with a reduced amount of
CoQ10. Complementary practitioners have long known this, and animal studies
reinforce the link. The inverse of this relationship is becoming quite
apparent, too, and I'm now convinced that permanent fixture in cCoQ10 should
be a Cancer therapy. If the research conclusions are true for all people, we
may have found something that can stop certain malignancies dead in their
tracks.
Several years ago Danish researchers gave daily 390 mg in supplements
(quite a hefty dose) to members of a group of women with metastatic breast
cancer. After several months the cancer went into remission for four women.
After eleven months one woman's cancer, which had spread from the breast to
the liver, was completely gone, and doctors reported that her health was
excellent.13
Dosage is apparently the key here. In an earlier trial, the Danish
researchers gave 90 mg per day to a different group of breast cancer
patients. That amount didn't reverse the malignant onslaught, although it
probably helped to prolong the women's lives."
See the Chapter at:
http://members.aol.com/hlthresrch/AtkinsQ10.html
Best Regards, Lorenzo
If you have pain -Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors.

Gamma-Linolenic acid ( GLA)

2006-12-23 15:03:28

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Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Gamma Linolenic Acid

2006-12-23 08:34:50

Ralph & Cynthia

I would advise you to stay far away from Gamma Linolenic Acid. Gamma Linolenic Acid is part of the Omega 6 variety. All the health reports are suggesting the reduction of Omega 6's. Linolenic Acid becomes Gamma Linolenic acid that wides up becoming Arachodonic Acid, which is dirrectly associated with pro-inflamatory problems in the body. Its use will reducing or eliminating the possitive benefits from Flax Oil.

Live Healthy

Mike Martin

Flax Seed Oil + Cottage Cheese

2006-12-22 23:37:46

Hello to members of this group!
I just joined and am looking forward to learning more about this
approach to wellness.
I have Non-Hogkins Lymphoma, further differentiated into Chronic
Lymphocytic Leukemia, Stage 2. I have no major symptoms yet other than
an extremely elevated white blood cell count, a slightly diminishing
hemoglobin count, a slightly enlarged spleen, and a number of
marble-sized lymph node enlargements in my armpits and groin.
I am about to embark on a non-toxic treatment protocol developed by
Peter Epp of Albritco in Bristish Columbia.
I had heard about the Budwig protocol of consuming flax oil and
cottage cheese. However I have several reservations about trying it
and would like some input from those of you on the list.
First of all, I ordinarily do no dairy products. I am somewhat lactose
intolerant, plus I have some major concerns over the quality of most
dairy products. I do not want to start absorbing hormones,
antibiotics, growth stimulants and other bacteria that may be present
in commercial dairy products. Milk products are known allergens to
many people, myself included. Plus consuming milk products increases
mucus, colesteral, and fat.
How are you managing these concerns? Any suggestions for alternatives
that contain the necessary proteins?
Thank you in advance and I look forward to being on this list.
Peter Lorenz

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Oatmeal and gamma linolenic acid

2006-12-22 13:32:30

Just got in some borage oil, and it has a lot gamma linolenic acid. Bought it to see if I could start losing some weight, have been on a standstill for a while. Cynthia

Oatmeal and gamma linolenic acid

2006-12-22 06:05:38

According to one web site oatmeal is the only food that contains gamma linolenic acid.

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] For Cliff - Flaxseed oil application to tumor

2006-12-22 04:12:33

Hi,
There would be nothing wrong with applying it directly in addition to trying
to get him to eat it.
I don't know of others experiences or if it has been done. As you say, some
have put it directly on skin cancers and it has been effective.
There would be little to lose. It will absorb through the skin.
cliff

For Cliff - Flaxseed oil application to tumor

2006-12-21 22:08:12

Dear Cliff,
Do you know of any experience that to apply Flaxseed
oil direct to the tumor? I read somewhere last night
it has been done for skin cancers. What about other
solid cancer tumor?
My dog has adenocarcinoma in anal sac. The tumor
nearly blocked the whole of his anus. We are
reintroducing FO/CC mixture to him with added berries.
We had given the mixture to him previously and he
gagged on it.
Dago has not had any conventional treatments due to
the risks involved. We have been hanging tight for the
last 5 months with the support of vitamins,
supplements and Chinese herbs. He was giving one month
if without the proposed conventional treatments of
surgery, chemotherapy with Doxorubicin and Radiation.
FO/CC and your website was the only help we had at
onset of his cancer 7/13/01. We since lost in the maze
and the magnitude of holistic treatments.
We are revisiting the FO/CC in the hope to counteract
his now cachexia state, as well as to continue to
preserve this brave boy's quality of life.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions you may have.
Chia-wen & Dago
Sydney Australia

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Analysis of Dr. Budwigs Protocol

2006-12-21 14:20:40

To The Group :

As some of you may know, Dietitian Jane and I have begun an in depth analysis of Dr. Budwigs protocol. We have completed the initial phase of building nutritional data bases of the ingredients and have analyzed FO/CC, "The Spread" and the "Mayo as defined in the Chris Turner article. Its

hard to get a real picture of the protocol because of there is no Nutritional Information available on the original german Quark. We are working with a Quark producer in Vermont, who may be able to help us out with that. If not we will simply buy some and have it analyzed by a lab. If anyone on the list here has that information or can tell me where I can find it, I would be very grateful. Jane and I plan on sharing the information, once complete with anyone interested.

Since we have the data base, If anyone out there wants an analysis of their own particular recipe, I would be happy to do that. Our comparative analysis is limited to FO/CC at this point, but its better then nothing. So atleast you can find out how your recipe stacks up against FO/CC.

Good Health,

Mike Martin

Flax Your Way to Better Health

www.flaxrd.com

Fetus of a Baby

2006-12-21 07:24:25

Thought this might be interesting..Yes Herbert, thanks for this information that I found very interesting. Might be a little off topic on the Flaxseed list 2..but never the less something a lot of women should know.

I never knew this until now. Which means that the baby is indeed a miracle from day one..Here I've have had many babies ( 6 ), and am still learning all about pre-birth of a fetus. Please study the following information, and keep in mind that before you were born you drank your own urine in your mother's womb!
During the second half of pregnancy, the majority of amniotic fluid is made by the baby through fetal urination. The fluid is then recycled by the baby swallowing the fluid. Several conditions can interfere with this normal recycling process, resulting in surplus amniotic fluid. For example, the kidneys of the fetus can become overactive and produce additional urine. More commonly, something interferes with the baby's swallowing process, such as narrowing of the swallowing tube, discoordination of the swallowing muscles, or a blockage in the stomach).
In Potter syndrome the primary defect is renal
failure that occurs before the baby is born, either from failure of the kidneys to develop (bilateral renal agenesis) or from other diseases of the kidney which cause them to fail. The kidneys normally produce the amniotic fluid (as urine) and it is the absence of amniotic fluid that causes the typical appearance of Potter syndrome.

TVA Document

2006-12-21 06:57:03

In order to understand the whole situation better, I
am enclosing these items which I normally have not put on a tape or the
internet. I cannot document either one, but I believe both to be true.
DIn the summer of 1993 a man stopped in from Chattanooga. When he retired
he was second in charge of all the TVA power plants. He had lost his wife
the year before in a cancer treatment complex in Illinois. Before she died
she was talking to the head doctor of the whole establishment. She asked
him whether he could foresee any hope for people in her condition. He
replied, "I'll be frank with you. No! In our society the biggest income
producers are the energy companies. The second biggest income producer is
cancer and if we were to announce today that we had a cure for cancer it
would cause the biggest depression America has ever seen. Our leaders will
not let that happen!"
In his book, "The Cancer Answer", Al carter says that, directly or
indirectly, there are more people making a living on cancer than there are
people who have it. The new toll free number for Al Carter's book, and an
excellent video tape on Cancer entitled "The Immune System" is
1-888-464-5867. The cost for both, delivered, is $36.95.
Two years ago a friend of my son's told him that he had heard a news
broadcast that told of a study just completed at Johns Hopkins that
concluded that of people who die of cancer half die of cancer and half die
of chemo and that chemo actually helps only two or three per cent of those
taking it. That report was buried immediately.
My son has put a more complete and detailed account of the tape on a
personal web page on the internet. We will not update the tape again, but
we will update the web page account as needed.
The address is http://home.usit.net/~spinner
E Mail spinner@...
Also, www.beckwithfamily.com.
Earthlink forced a change in our original address to the personal web page.
This won't be changed and will get on the search engines in time.
We have known of two situations where people were killed quickly with chemo
when they had made close to complete recovery with flaxseed oil but the
doctors ignored that and used an new chemo.
Both accounts are at the website.
We have other accounts where chemo has done more harm than good.
Dr. Budwig has taken many patients who were terminal after being involved in
standard treatment and restored them to health. Of course, when Dr. Budwig
takes a patient, she is in complete charge and they do what she says.
Cliff

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] We all need a good laugh/Dr Budwig/Answer#2/#3

2006-12-20 21:14:22

Hi Cynthia I meant to say re: the 2d patient that along with the falxssed oil that he also bought" hopefully low fat cottage cheese" in my last message. Sorry about that! Thanks, Mike Cinelli

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] We all need a good laugh/Dr Budwig/Answer#2

2006-12-20 11:18:02

Hi Cynthia,

You are doing your best but please remember that people who are really ill usually have no patience and often want some direction from someone they traust. Kindness and soft words do help. If you can help further with encouragement, it is doing the right thing. The fact that the 2d patient you mention bought some flaxseed oil ( and hopefully flaxseed oil) about 2.5 months ago means that he must have believed in it. We all need omega 3 badly and no doubt that is one of the things lacking in his diet.[ Dr. Budwig explains it well in her book.] His condition really seems to need this, but in the final analysis it is up to his wife, family and of course himself to get the proper nutrients into his body. Good luck and good health to you and them. Mike Cinelli

Help please--

2006-12-20 05:50:13

When it comes to incurable diseases; it makes no difference what they are
called; IF they are "Incurable" than they probably are the result of
"malnutrition" and a nutritious diet is not likely to make them worse as
medication may and there are thousands of stories where changing the diet to
nutritious food has helped or even cured!
I dare you to send a list of what is in the sick persons cupboard and
fridge!
The most nutritious diets have natural foods like organic meat, vegetables,
fruits and nuts. Milk and Grains not included. At least half of it raw.
Best Regards, Lorenzo
If you have pain -Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors.

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Budwig diet Principles/Reply

2006-12-19 22:14:24

Hello unknown writer,
You may have answered the question yourself by referring to Dr. Roehm`s
short article, but you would do well by reading the Dr.Budwig book, " Flax
Oil, As A True Aid Against Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer and Other
Diseases. Her book on what to eat, "Oil-Protein Diet Cookbook", will put you
on the right path to good nutrition and over 500 recipes that will help you
whether you are in the advance stages of a disease, the moderate stage , or,
are just interested in prevention. In that book Dr. Budwig gives the real
background on what to eat and what not to eat in order to get the maximum
benefit and no adverse effects from her Flaxseed Oil/Low Fat Cottage Cheese
protocol. Of course, she is deadly against chemotherapy, radiation and legal
drugs because of the great harm they do to the body and it`s immune system,
and the pre-mature deaths or great suffering they cause. She describes how
to obtain the best health with nature, as humans were meant to live. But you
know all that. I found that by reading Dr. Budwig a real education on self
health can be achieved in only a few hours. Fondest regards, Mike Cinelli
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Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] We all need a good laugh/Dr Budwig/Answer

2006-12-19 19:44:47

Hi Cynthia and Jack,
Good for you Cynthia to take a personal interest in this lady who needs help
desparately. Hopefully, she is not too far into the stage IV cancer for the
Dr. Budwig diet to work. If you have a copy of the "Oil- Protein-Diet
Cookbook " by Dr. Budwig, the lady may have a chance if she follows the
suggestions for advanced cases, because Dr. Budwig has saved a lot of very
advanced cases by a switch in life styles and her protocol. There is hope.
Barlean`s or good bookstores have copies of her book, and she`ll have to
have a source of flaxseed oil and low fat cottage cheese. Her energy can
improve in about 3 days by taking the flaxssed oil/cottage cheese
combination,according to reports and my own experience.
Jack, Dr. Johanna Budwig is very much alive at 94 and still consults with
patients. We are lucky to have such a person in this world and she can be
reached by fax or telephone, if you wish.
Good luck and good health to all, Mike Cinelli
============================================================================
========

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] We all need a good laugh

2006-12-19 14:03:55

Will be delivering Cliff's 20 page testimony, and Dr. Budwig's testimony to a bone cancer patient with no chance to live, since she has a recurrence after 5 years, a stage iv survivor, but terminal. Asking your prayers that she will read and do the flaxoil, for she said she was not in a very good condition to listen to me and maybe I can talk to her in a week or so,
You know it was so hard for me to call her, after I heard the bad news that her cancer came back and there was no chance for her to live. Anyways, God willing I called, and talked to her for 5 minutes, and she asked me to get the paperwork gathered, so I did. Now, I prayed she can read or her husband can read this.
She had not heard of flaxseed oil, and she would always get up and testify for Christ's with surviving stage IV cancer, and am hoping that she will do the flaxseed oil treatment.
Cynthia

We all need a good laugh

2006-12-19 10:18:51

Lately, many recipes recommend sea vegetables be included in cooked vegetables, soups, beans, and grains dishes. Do all sea greens contain carrageenan?
I have been using Eden Sea Vegetables, Kombu, and the package does not show carrageenan. Mildred

********************************
[INLINE] I had to laugh yesterday Mel and I mentioned to a friend to beware of this Carrageenan being now in most of our foods. Immediately she begin to look on a pint of cream.." WELL then out it goes." And she dropped it into the garbage. Now if this would have been ME..I'd went ahead and finished it, then vowed never to buy it again..Oh well aren't we all funny when it comes to protecting ourselves..Thank God My friend listened to me. Now I have to be extra careful I never tell her anything wrongly in the future..Or I might go back and find she demolished her home..so I dare not mention to her either that she has to blow up the house, because the dog has a flea and it is hatching new ones all over everything.

Love YOU Karen, You make my day.

MIz Judy

Thomas Bill

2006-12-19 09:37:01

Hi,
It is normally not good to post messages from other lists, but I believe
this should be an exception.
Ciff

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Cranberries Also!

2006-12-18 16:52:37

In a message dated 12/4/01 7:29:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
lorenzo1@... writes:
I've been thinking about doing that and making juice sweetened with stevia.
I'm one of the few people who can stand stevia. I love cranberry juice, but
seldom have it any more because of the sugar in the commercial brands. So
much sugar you can hardly taste the berries.
Starris

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] NEW VIRUS

2006-12-18 16:35:46

The virus(worm) that Cliff described is an old one. Maybe it is recurring. Please don't panic. This description is a worm and is also connected with Microsoft Outlook. Cliff and others that use Microsoft Outlook, I would recommend your getting the AVG anti-virus program which is free and can be downloaded. Have your son assist you in getting it, and it will detect this worm. Be sure you set it for automatic update notices so that you will keep current with all updates for viruses and worms. If you update to the latest MSN for your internet connection, you will not use Microsoft Outlook which was omitted from MSN versions 6.0 and later. Mildred

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Info On Carrageenan

2006-12-18 09:32:09

Lately, many recipes recommend sea vegetables be included in cooked vegetables, soups, beans, and grains dishes. Do all sea greens contain carrageenan?

I have been using Eden Sea Vegetables, Kombu, and the package does not show carrageenan. Mildred

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Help please--Well here is a start if you can stand it!

2006-12-18 06:31:06

Thank you for your good intentions. However he has M"D"S, not MS. Thank you
Bon
In a message dated 12/4/2001 10:57:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lorenzo1@... writes:
<< To help yourself; Read,
www.panix.com/~paleodiet
A few items follow:
Roger MacDougall was a famous British playwright, who was diagnosed with MS
in the 1950's. The doctors felt it was best to keep the information from
him. They thought it was in his best interests not to tell him what he had.
It was not until he was bedridden that he learned what illness he had. When
he knew about it, he did some reading, and went on a gluten and casein free
diet. He recovered almost totally. MacDougall eventually wrote a pamphlet.
Edited for the web and now found here: My Fight Against Multiple Sclerosis.
Pamphlet published 1980 by Regenics Inc, Rt. 10, 2660 Touby Road, Mansfield
Ohio 44903, Telephone (419) 756-2994 (Cost $2).
In the Oct. 5, 1974, Lancet, Dr. Norman A. Matheson's letter "Multiple
Sclerosis and Diet" was published on p. 831, wherein he outlined his having
been diagnosed with MS and subsequently reading Roger MacDougall's story. He
then described his return to good health and ended with: "I thank Roger
MacDougall, whose diet made it possible to carry out these observations."
At Chet Day's site can be found two articles by Ashton Embry: Multiple
Sclerosis and Food Hypersensitivities and The Critical Need for Dietary
Research into the Cause and Progression of Multiple Sclerosis.
Betty Iams' site includes Suggestions for the Newly Diagnosed, which starts
with: "at the least eliminating gluten, all dairy, animal fat and processed
sugar." Then goes on with more recommendations.
Multiple Sclerosis, The Blood Brain Barrier, and New Treatment by Timothy R.
Stout says there are three related chemicals which have been found effective
in strengthening the blood-brain barrier in animals. These are the
anthocyanosides, proanthocyanidins, and procyanidolic oligomers (PCOs). All
three of these are variants of a common class of chemicals called
"flavonoids." Also see his MS Page.
John Pageler has a description of The Modified Swank Lo-fat Diet. He limits
less fats than Dr. Swank, and he uses absolutely no milk products.
Linda tells her story My Experience with MS and Route to being Symptom Free.
She took supplements and removed foods that she had positive ELISA tests to.
Jacque Rigg used trial and error to find the foods that were bothering her.
See an article in the National Enquirer, and the Amazon reviews on her book
Curing the Incurable.
Wendy's MS site has Swank Diet Information, a brief summary of the diet.
Canes Undercover has articles on Benefits of a low fat diet and vitamins for
MS.
Glenna's Natural Approach for Her MS is her story. Includes a diet
component.
[Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]
Research
W.J. Lutz, MD in "The Colonisation of Europe and Our Western Diseases"
(Medical Hypotheses, Vol. 45, pages 115-120, 1995) argues that there is a
clear, inverse relationship between civilisatory diseases and the length of
time the people of a given region of Europe have had to adapt to the high
carbohydrate diet associated with the cultivation of cereal grains that
...............................................................
Best Regards, Lorenzo
If you have pain -Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors.

Help please

2006-12-17 21:37:17

Search the net and you will find that many people have gone back to a sound
diet of "natural" food and recovered from the "incurable".
Best Regards, Lorenzo
If you have pain -Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors.

Help please--Well here is a start if you can stand it!

2006-12-17 19:02:08

To help yourself; Read,
www.panix.com/~paleodiet
A few items follow:
Roger MacDougall was a famous British playwright, who was diagnosed with MS
in the 1950's. The doctors felt it was best to keep the information from
him. They thought it was in his best interests not to tell him what he had.
It was not until he was bedridden that he learned what illness he had. When
he knew about it, he did some reading, and went on a gluten and casein free
diet. He recovered almost totally. MacDougall eventually wrote a pamphlet.
Edited for the web and now found here: My Fight Against Multiple Sclerosis.
Pamphlet published 1980 by Regenics Inc, Rt. 10, 2660 Touby Road, Mansfield
Ohio 44903, Telephone (419) 756-2994 (Cost $2).
In the Oct. 5, 1974, Lancet, Dr. Norman A. Matheson's letter "Multiple
Sclerosis and Diet" was published on p. 831, wherein he outlined his having
been diagnosed with MS and subsequently reading Roger MacDougall's story. He
then described his return to good health and ended with: "I thank Roger
MacDougall, whose diet made it possible to carry out these observations."
At Chet Day's site can be found two articles by Ashton Embry: Multiple
Sclerosis and Food Hypersensitivities and The Critical Need for Dietary
Research into the Cause and Progression of Multiple Sclerosis.
Betty Iams' site includes Suggestions for the Newly Diagnosed, which starts
with: "at the least eliminating gluten, all dairy, animal fat and processed
sugar." Then goes on with more recommendations.
Multiple Sclerosis, The Blood Brain Barrier, and New Treatment by Timothy R.
Stout says there are three related chemicals which have been found effective
in strengthening the blood-brain barrier in animals. These are the
anthocyanosides, proanthocyanidins, and procyanidolic oligomers (PCOs). All
three of these are variants of a common class of chemicals called
"flavonoids." Also see his MS Page.
John Pageler has a description of The Modified Swank Lo-fat Diet. He limits
less fats than Dr. Swank, and he uses absolutely no milk products.
Linda tells her story My Experience with MS and Route to being Symptom Free.
She took supplements and removed foods that she had positive ELISA tests to.
Jacque Rigg used trial and error to find the foods that were bothering her.
See an article in the National Enquirer, and the Amazon reviews on her book
Curing the Incurable.
Wendy's MS site has Swank Diet Information, a brief summary of the diet.
Canes Undercover has articles on Benefits of a low fat diet and vitamins for
MS.
Glenna's Natural Approach for Her MS is her story. Includes a diet
component.
[Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]
Research
W.J. Lutz, MD in "The Colonisation of Europe and Our Western Diseases"
(Medical Hypotheses, Vol. 45, pages 115-120, 1995) argues that there is a
clear, inverse relationship between civilisatory diseases and the length of
time the people of a given region of Europe have had to adapt to the high
carbohydrate diet associated with the cultivation of cereal grains that
...............................................................
Best Regards, Lorenzo
If you have pain -Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors.

Cranberries Also!

2006-12-17 11:08:11

Cranberries Also! are now touted as providing benefits better? than most
other foods. Buy some now or on Dec 26 at low cost and freeze. Use them
all year. We always put some in any smoothie. Way cheaper than
Blueberries.
Best Regards, Lorenzo
If you have pain -Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors.

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Help please

2006-12-16 23:43:14

I don't know if anyone here can help, but I'd sure be grateful. A very good
old friend left me a message on my answering machine today that he has MDS.
He is 68. Do any of you know anything that could help this? I never heard
of it myself, but I've just spent a few hours doing some searches. It's
medically incurable. He's on blood transfusions every 2 weeks and was just
diagnosed in September.
Looks like we need to look in the "unusual" or holistic places. Any
information is much appreciated.
TIA
BonnieB

NEW VIRUS

2006-12-16 16:36:58

What will it be called?.. and we can put a blocker on it CLIFF.
I have two in the Blocker now. Snow- White Ha, ha, and Bad Trans.. If anymore they will go there to.

Miz Judy

brand medicines

2006-12-16 16:21:31

This must be true, for already here in Holmes County..Medicaid is only giving to me generic, in every pill I take for even high blood pressure. Where before I got exactly what the doctor prescribed.
Miz Judy

Medicare and Medicaid pay for some (not all) prescribed medicines, and do not pay for alternative medicines. Starting next year, I have been told that Medicare will only pay for generic medicines and no brand medicines. I haven't checked this out but I would not be surprised, as many HMO's that supplement medicare are stopping brand medicines next year. Mildred

Home.com

2006-12-16 09:04:46

HI,
It has come to my attention that home.com has filed for bankruptcy and ATT,
a part owner, has been given the OK to pull the plug as it were.
Within a few days, at most, anyone using and address ending in @home.com
will have their messages refused.
Anyone on this list with a home.com address will have to get a new provider.
You will need to send a blank email to

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] DR. BUDWIG'S LINK

2006-12-16 04:12:06

i just clicked on the link and it just came on the screen.

pjbittner

DR. BUDWIG'S LINK

2006-12-16 01:29:28

Cancer cure Dr. Budwig Diet, Flax seed oil And Cottage cheese CANNOT PULL UP THE LINK TO DR. BUDWIG ANYMORE. DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS LINK?

[FlaxSeedOil2] Companion Nutrients

2006-12-15 17:14:47

We had the same problem then....I have been using a hand blender using the
fo/cc WITH van.Yogurt. {about 3/4 cup}add 1/2 cup fruit blend blend blend and it
tastes like cheese cake..Good luck LJR

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] barriers in trying to get through the health

2006-12-15 07:50:58

Some kind of a coherent system of Universal Health Care is needed; we're the last "developed" country in the world to get Universal Health Care. All of you out there who have Medicaid or Medicare are being assisted by the government and taxpayers. Why not have it for everybody. Taxes might go up but premiums would go down and salaries would go up (because employers are now paying less in salaries to compensate themselves for what they pay out in premiums for their participation in employees health insurance). As it is, under our present system we pay twice as much for medical care than any other ''developed" country and medical care is distributed less efficiently than in any other "developed" country. What I'm afraid of is with Universal Health Care there might be more regulation of vitamins, etc. Codex might come in. The public would have to fight to prevent these from happening.

barriers in trying to get through the health

2006-12-14 23:13:05

"For people who don't have resources there are great difficulties and many
barriers in trying to get through the health care system," Dr. Harold P.
Freeman, chairman of the President's Cancer Panel, said in an
interview------
The article is at:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/12/03/cancer.ap/index.html
Best Regards, Lorenzo
If you have pain -Join the CaveManFood list and eat like our ancestors.

more into on carrageenan

2006-12-14 20:53:14

I printed out the references from carrageeman and gave them to a health food coop that I belong to. Today I got an email from the coop that said more information was printed in a nutrition letter that the coop receives. What do you think, Greg, others?
Carolyn
December 3, 2001
NUTRITION NEWS FOCUS
"Nutrition news is important. We help you understand it!"
Today's Topic: Carrageenan
Carra-what? Carrageenan is a gum used as a food thickener that is
derived from seaweed. It finds its way into pudding, ice cream,
yogurt, condensed milk, and some soy milk products. It is there to
improve the texture. Carrageenan is a large molecule, which makes it
indigestible, and qualifies it to be classed as dietary fiber.
One type, called degraded carrageenan, is smaller in size than the
parent compound and has been used experimentally to induce
inflammation of the colon and to enhance the formation of colon cancer
in rats. Small amounts of carrageenan we eat are of the size
considered degraded. Some researchers believe this is a health
threat, while others do not believe the amount we are exposed to is of
importance. A review of 45 animal studies was published in the
October 2001 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, but there are
no studies on people because we are exposed to so little.
HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: Here is another example
of "What should I do when the experts can't agree?" Unfortunately, no
one has the answer yet. Virtually all the bad news comes from rat
studies, and one experiment suggests the bacteria that live in the rat
intestine may contribute to the effects while bacteria from humans do
not result in the same problems. We can't tell you to avoid the
stuff, but we also cannot assure you it is completely safe.

Info On Carrageenan

2006-12-14 12:05:14

December 3, 2001

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"Nutrition news is important. We help you understand it!"

Today's Topic: Carrageenan

Carra-what? Carrageenan is a gum used as a food thickener that is

derived from seaweed. It finds its way into pudding, ice cream,

yogurt, condensed milk, and some soy milk products. It is there to

improve the texture. Carrageenan is a large molecule, which makes it

indigestible, and qualifies it to be classed as dietary fiber.

One type, called degraded carrageenan, is smaller in size than the

parent compound and has been used experimentally to induce

inflammation of the colon and to enhance the formation of colon cancer

in rats. Small amounts of carrageenan we eat are of the size

considered degraded. Some researchers believe this is a health

threat, while others do not believe the amount we are exposed to is of

importance. A review of 45 animal studies was published in the

October 2001 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives, but there are

no studies on people because we are exposed to so little.

HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: Here is another example

of "What should I do when the experts can't agree?" Unfortunately, no

one has the answer yet. Virtually all the bad news comes from rat

studies, and one experiment suggests the bacteria that live in the rat

intestine may contribute to the effects while bacteria from humans do

not result in the same problems. We can't tell you to avoid the

stuff, but we also cannot assure you it is completely safe.

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Steve

2006-12-14 10:26:43

Hi,
I don't know about Steve. He must be new.
Tell Meredith that when she calls in an order, or if she does, to simply
tell the salesperson that she has cancer and understands they will ship it
wholesale to cancer patients.
They may not advertise that fact, but they will. Meredith's word will be
sufficient.
Folks may lie to get a lower price, but that is between them and The Lord.
That makes me think of a young pastor one day who said, "I admire pretty
girls, but I never saw one pretty enough to go to Hell for".
That amount of oil seems awfully excessive except for maybe a short time in
a very serious situation.
I am no expert here. This is why medical people interested in getting
people well more than in getting rich ought to do some real research on the
Budwig protocol and not just on seeds.
Cliff

Fw: [FlaxSeedOil2] Thank You for adding me

2006-12-14 02:28:15

WELCOME JOY and we hope you can come on soon to ask questions and to share what you'll soon find out about Flaxseed Oil and of its good usage. See you later at Natural..Have a nice evening here.

Miz Judy

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Cancer discount from Barleans

2006-12-13 23:01:38

Cliff - e.t.a.l.

Jane and I were at a book signing this weekend and we had a great discussion with a gal who was doing the budwig protocol, as she recieved it from a Barleans rep named Steve. He had her doing 7 tablespoon of oil along with 2 tablespoons of ground seed....at the same time. That was pretty alarming to me, so I told her of the group here and especially about you Cliff. Steve also didn't mention a thing about the cancer diagnosis discount that I know Barleans provides. I have more info on Steve and will probably be running into him here in the next few weeks. I think that, that was pretty irresponsible of him and I don't believe Barleans would be to happy with a rep of their' passing out that kind of information, or not passing it out. So Cliff could you post again where a person can call to get the cancer discount? This ladies name is Merideth and shes really wonderful and could benefit greatly from the fellowship of this list. So I fully expect her to make an appearance here
in the next couple of days and I know I can count on all of you to make her feel welcome. Cliff, do you think I should call Barleans about the rep?

Respectfully,

Mike Martin

Thank You for adding me

2006-12-13 18:25:48

I want to thank you for adding me to this group I will
visit often or when I can I am very interested in
learning more about flaxseed oil.
Thank you again,
Joy Patton

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Companion Nutrients

2006-12-13 07:47:05

Hi Cliff,
I am takinmg the Companion Nutrients also, and was told that the ratio
was 1 Companion Nutrient per tbsp. of oil. Anwyay, I'm taking approx. 5
tbsp. oil and 5 companion nutrients per day. Hope this sound right to
you.

Companion nutrients and mixing

2006-12-12 23:19:56

Why is it that CC or yogurt must be mixed with FO before being eaten but it is all right to take the companion nutrient first and then the FO a little later? Do these latter mix enough in the stomach for the FO to become efficacious?

Why not necessary to mix companion nutrients

2006-12-12 22:46:33

It is necessary to mix FO with CC or yogurt BEFORE eating for the FO to be efficacious. Why is it not necessary to mix the companion nutrients with FO before eating. As I understand it, one takes the companion nutrients first and then the FO a little while later. Does sufficient mixing of the companion nutrients and the FO go on in one's stomach for the FO to be utilized in the same way it would be if premixed with the CC?

Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Today

2006-12-12 12:00:13

How is this done - in the eye? You mention clear - does that mean none of
the lignans (sedament)? How many drops should be used? How often?
TIA
BonnieB
In a message dated 12/1/2001 8:42:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
spinner@... writes:
<<
Hi,
Just after coming home from a PCa support group meeting today I recieved a
phone call from a woman in our area, now 83, that was rather exciting.
She contacted me a few weeks ago and told me that she had heard about using
flaxseed oil in one's eyes.
She had a cataract developing in one eye. The other eye had had a cataract
removed and has macular degeneration.
She got some clear oil and an eyedropper and began using it. Her call today
was to tell me that she was already seeing much better in the eye with
macular degeneration. She was so thankful that she had heard about it.
Cliff

Today

2006-12-12 06:11:57

Hi,
Just after coming home from a PCa support group meeting today I recieved a
phone call from a woman in our area, now 83, that was rather exciting.
She contacted me a few weeks ago and told me that she had heard about using
flaxseed oil in one's eyes.
She had a cataract developing in one eye. The other eye had had a cataract
removed and has macular degeneration.
She got some clear oil and an eyedropper and began using it. Her call today
was to tell me that she was already seeing much better in the eye with
macular degeneration. She was so thankful that she had heard about it.
Cliff

Send to Block Sender

2006-12-12 03:29:58

Beware of the BadTrans.B virus. This thing is no joke--it puts
a Trojan horse in your computer that can send your personal
information back to the hacker who wrote it. Yikes!
I just added this to my Block-Sender box, right along with SnowWhite. Now I'm waiting to get all the virus in there.

Miz Judy

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